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post #1 of 23 Old 01-08-2009, 11:55 AM Thread Starter
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I/C or Water/Meth

Ok guys I need some advice.....

Should I get an I/C, looking at Hypermax? Or get a water/meth kit?

I tow a 12k lb 5th wheel, EGT's are not a problem, highest is 1100 ish, but why not get them a little lower?

So I would like some real oppinions on pro/con and what would you do.
I am planning on the Beans D66 eventually, so a PSI loss will not be a problem.

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No intercooler can hold its own against water injection. Just get a big resevior.



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get both for the extra power and cooler egts

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So, which brand? Coolingmist, AEM, Snow? I think I will try the water first then after the new turbo I will see about an I/C

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For starters there is no way you are only seeing 1100° on the pyro with stage Is pulling that much load unless you are running a very low hp program. Or unless your probe is post turbo and not in the manifold.

I'd take the IC over water for every day use and ESPECIALLY for towing any distance. You install it, it works, you don't mess with it, it's no hassle.

With water you have to have a tank mounted somewhere taking up bed space or under the truck where it's a pain to fill, and if you are going on a long trip, especially towing heavy, t's always going to be sipping off the bottle and it's going to go through a lot of water so you're constantly going to be refilling it. When mixed with meth it will give you a boost in power where the IC and straight water won't or will give very little.

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It has spiked over 1100 for brief moments, but nothing to really worry about, when on the flats at 60-65 mph it's at 1000 ish. And yes I use a low HP tow tune, in fact I wish I could just have the transmission part and not the HP of the tune. I don't need to be "hot rodding" with the 5th wheel. Yes the probe is in the manifold.

I did some research last night, they both have their pros/cons. The cost is $1500 for I/C and $1000 for water. I did like the stage 3 from Snow, it has a progressive controller. The I/C's are Hypermax and Banks. I'm not ready to go camping yet ,too cold, so I have a little time.

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It has spiked over 1100 for brief moments, but nothing to really worry about, when on the flats at 60-65 mph it's at 1000 ish. And yes I use a low HP tow tune, in fact I wish I could just have the transmission part and not the HP of the tune. I don't need to be "hot rodding" with the 5th wheel. Yes the probe is in the manifold.

I did some research last night, they both have their pros/cons. The cost is $1500 for I/C and $1000 for water. I did like the stage 3 from Snow, it has a progressive controller. The I/C's are Hypermax and Banks. I'm not ready to go camping yet ,too cold, so I have a little time.
If you could get your hands on a pipekit then you can run a Banks Pipe Kit with a stock SD cooler or 6.0 cooler.

In parts its about 300 for the pipe kit and you can get the Intercooler for 100-300$


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i say get the intercooler.
i put a water/meth kit on my truck and it works great but i am shocked how much fluid it goes through, so i got an intercooler for everyday (i haven't got it on yet) and am keeping the water meth for a little extra kick.



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I think I'm gonna check with Hypermax. Looks like decent kit.

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i say go with the IC or the water meth... you cant go wrong with either kit...

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