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Noob question--What am I going to regret?

About a year ago, I bought a 1996 California CCLB, 4x4, auto, 4.10 posi, 6" skyjacker lift, 35 X 12.5 (18" wheels) Toyo MT's, stock motor with about 113K miles. It was a local truck, and I am familiar with the two previous owners. I only intend to drive it about 2,000 miles/year, and rarely will tow more than 3000-4000 pounds (at least for now). I am installing my 3" downpipe and 4" DiamondEye right now. Also have on hand gauges (EGT, Boost,Trans temp), TruCool tranny cooler & lines, TS6 chip with Wildman tunes for my stock California injectors, Boost fooler, DIY 6637 intake, HX crossover, and Banks intercooler ready to install in no particular order...I basically want a fun, reliable truck, with significant more power than stock. Money is something of an issue, but I have been putting some away for additional upgrades.
Sounds good so far, right...?

Well, now it has developed a major leak which appears to be spraying out the back of the fuel pump straight toward the rear of the engine (pi$$ing like a race horse, really). I have removed the fuel bowl and the three hoses which attach to the pump. I've read the threads on fuel pump removal and understand it can be a PITA.
I intend to remove the turbo and pedestal in order to more easily R&R the fuel pump. I know many will say go with e-fuel at this point, and I'm half inclined to do so. If I stick with stock fuel pump, I am going to replace all the typical O-rings and hoses down in the valley.

What am I going to regret not having done while I have the stock turbo/pedestal/fuel bowl & fuel pump removed. On my best day, I'm only an average mechanic
IF I had $3K to $4K to spend, what thing or what combination of things should I next be looking to install, and keeping in mind my average mechanical ability...should I:
1) New turbo (perhaps D66) with ebpv-delete pedestal
2) Stage 1 type injectors
3) E-Fuel
4) Something else?

Thanks for your thoughts, and thanks for all the advice I've been reading up to this point.

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3" DP; 4" Exhaust
Tymar 6637; Boost Fooler; HX crossover
EBPV Delete Pedestal; EBPV Delete Housing
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On deck: 3 Gauge Pod; Banks IC; Tru-Cool; TW TS6 Chip

Someday: Injectors; HPOP; ???
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I would definitely do e-fuel. If you piece together your own kit you could probably save a decent amount of $$ to put back into injectors/turbo/etc.

Do you have a power goal in mind?

Also FYI you don't have to remove the turbo to R&R the fuel pump. I did mine with it in, took me roughly 2 hours to R&R everything. Just pay attention to not drop the plunger in the motor.

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when you pull the turbo rebuild it. I wouldn't do a D66 unless you do bigger injectors too (first), I would do e fuel. i did mine for ~$650 with a brand new motorcraft pump

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I would definitely do e-fuel. If you piece together your own kit you could probably save a decent amount of $$ to put back into injectors/turbo/etc.

Do you have a power goal in mind?

Also FYI you don't have to remove the turbo to R&R the fuel pump. I did mine with it in, took me roughly 2 hours to R&R everything. Just pay attention to not drop the plunger in the motor.
the cali models have a damper on them, that requires the removal of the turbo.

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I appreciate the replies.
My existing fuel pump has some pancake-shaped black disc on the top of it, which I think really inhibits access to the pump. Do all the trucks have this, or is this a "California Special"?

Sounds as if efuel is the preferred way to go.
If I do e-fuel, the fuel bowl, fuel pump, and FPR will then go away and never have to be dealt with again?
And as I understand, a D66 without bigger injectors will be useless. Does the D66 in combination with bigger injectors necessarily require efuel, or is efuel just a preferred method of fuel delivery regardless of the mods being installed?
Thanks again.

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1996 California Truck
113,XXX miles
E4OD
Torreador Red
3" DP; 4" Exhaust
Tymar 6637; Boost Fooler; HX crossover
EBPV Delete Pedestal; EBPV Delete Housing
35"x12.5"x18" Toyo MT w/Gloss Black XD "Hoss" wheels.


On deck: 3 Gauge Pod; Banks IC; Tru-Cool; TW TS6 Chip

Someday: Injectors; HPOP; ???
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I appreciate the replies.
My existing fuel pump has some pancake-shaped black disc on the top of it, which I think really inhibits access to the pump. Do all the trucks have this, or is this a "California Special"?

Sounds as if efuel is the preferred way to go.
If I do e-fuel, the fuel bowl, fuel pump, and FPR will then go away and never have to be dealt with again?
And as I understand, a D66 without bigger injectors will be useless. Does the D66 in combination with bigger injectors necessarily require efuel, or is efuel just a preferred method of fuel delivery regardless of the mods being installed?
Thanks again.
that is the damper

i say it requires e fuel, some don't necessarily agree with me. it definitely is a cleaner way to go

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I would go with e-fuel. There is a guy out there (Mark Fugazzotto) who makes a kit to convert over. He makes the fuel block for on the engine and supplies it in a kit for 165. He also provides all the info for the rest of the pieces. I have 378 bucks in all of it. I bought a bosh pump but he uses a carter. Here is a video of the setup. I have not installed it yet but plan on it next month when I tear my truck down to redo it. He is a super nice guy. I have his contact info if you want it. He built this while putting a 7.3 in his 1958 chevy dump truck.
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Thanks for the video! That guy has a nice looking e-fuel kit.
Is yours already up and running with that kit?

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1996 California Truck
113,XXX miles
E4OD
Torreador Red
3" DP; 4" Exhaust
Tymar 6637; Boost Fooler; HX crossover
EBPV Delete Pedestal; EBPV Delete Housing
35"x12.5"x18" Toyo MT w/Gloss Black XD "Hoss" wheels.


On deck: 3 Gauge Pod; Banks IC; Tru-Cool; TW TS6 Chip

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I would go with e-fuel. There is a guy out there (Mark Fugazzotto) who makes a kit to convert over. He makes the fuel block for on the engine and supplies it in a kit for 165. He also provides all the info for the rest of the pieces. I have 378 bucks in all of it. I bought a bosh pump but he uses a carter. Here is a video of the setup. I have not installed it yet but plan on it next month when I tear my truck down to redo it. He is a super nice guy. I have his contact info if you want it. He built this while putting a 7.3 in his 1958 chevy dump truck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsS4-grcfrY
Oops--
I missed that. Disregard my question whether yours is already up and running.

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1996 California Truck
113,XXX miles
E4OD
Torreador Red
3" DP; 4" Exhaust
Tymar 6637; Boost Fooler; HX crossover
EBPV Delete Pedestal; EBPV Delete Housing
35"x12.5"x18" Toyo MT w/Gloss Black XD "Hoss" wheels.


On deck: 3 Gauge Pod; Banks IC; Tru-Cool; TW TS6 Chip

Someday: Injectors; HPOP; ???
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I wish I had time right now to get mine on. I am putting up a 40x48 building right now and I have a machine shop I run as a side business that is out of control right now with orders.....hopefully I get a break soon so I can get to the truck.
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I've just went through this with my Cali truck. I went with MarkF's fuel lines, Carter fuel pump and 2 filters. I have under $400 in it with everything including the fuel line and good crimpable clamps. I used a Wicked Wheel 2 and EBPV delete and so far haven't purchased a chip. The truck has a noticable improvement in torque and it pulls much better.

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