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Split & Single Shot

Could you put a single shot in place of a split shot? Would it be easier to get better injectors?

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Split shot injectors requier differnt programing than a single shot.Yes it would be better to get better injectors.

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Could you put a single shot in place of a split shot? Would it be easier to get better injectors?
94-97 NON CALI Trucks all have Single Shot injectors

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Could you put a single shot in place of a split shot? Would it be easier to get better injectors?
I'm not sure what you mean by 'better' injectors. But I'd say Splits are 'Better' in that they have Tungsten coated parts whereas the singles do not (unless you replace those parts). And typically the Splits have not been around as long as the single shots, so they would naturally have fewer miles than some older single shots.

Having said that, it's a pretty common, popular upgrade to convert split shot injectors to single shot. Though not everyone has had complete success with the conversion chip to run them, so that's something to keep in mind.

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Could you put a single shot in place of a split shot? Would it be easier to get better injectors?
Yes the physical outer dimensions of the injectors are the same so they are interchangable. However due to the split shot needing more timing advance to get through the pilot shot by dropping a single shot injector in a truck that is programed for split shots you will have to much timing advance and it will not run correctly. This seems to be mostly noticeable at idle and lower rpm/throttle settings.

The single shots seem to, in almost every case, give better mileage, and make more power. They do seem to be a little noisier which seems to be their only drawback. They also require less high pressure oil volume to get the same amount of fuel out due to not having the pause in the injection event. So other than if a slight increase in diesel rattle is your big pet peve there really isn't any drawback to going from splits to singles. The only other issue is getting your chip reprogramed for the singles. If you are taking the step of going to singles you should already have a chip anyway so that shouldn't even really be an issue.

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raattle, i couldnt care less. i live in CA, so of course.... splits.... and injectors are 5th on my mod list, behind chip, so if course i would have it chipped. but, i was looking around, and i could find any high performance split shots really. maybe im just not looking, but i only found high HP single shots.

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That's because you can't really do much with the splits without screwing up the pilot shot. Singles are the way to go anyway so I'd just go that direction.

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arighty. will a TS chip be enough to handle the switch?

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I don't see why not as long as it's programed for them.

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so if i sent it to them and said, hey, ima be running singles instead of splits, they could just do it so it would accommodate it all the time (ie. 0 or off = regular volume, but single shot capable)

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