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Old 09-14-2013, 08:51 PM
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Stage 1, 1.5 or stage 2 injectors?

I'm putting together an intercooler kit and a 17* HPOP in the next few weeks. When I get back from elk season I'm hoping to order some injectors. I tow my Jeep and other projects. Otherwise like to haul ***. I'd like the tunes to actually be faster each level I place it, unlike with the stock injectors the tuning just changes the shift points and pedal sensitivity. As it is now, there's no difference I can tell between the Daily Driver and Sport, and Extreme actually makes less boost than either one.

I see the stage 1s are higher capacity with stock nozzles. I understand these will work well with my stock turbo (with a WW2).

The stage 1.5 are 30% over nozzles, 2s are 80% over nozzles. I assume this means they will flow that percent over stock. Will these be too much for the stock turbo at the higher levels?

I understand stage 1s will perform just like stock with stock tuning because of the nozzles. Does the 80% over mean that the stage 2s will be a much higher bump even with stock Wildman tuning?

What can I expect for performance with the 3 options?

Thanks for the input.
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Old 09-14-2013, 09:40 PM
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You are correct, 30%/80% is referring to nozzle size and now much they flow over stock nozzles. If you are staying with a stock turbo I would get anything over the 30% nozzles or EGTs will be high and your truck will smoke like train. The stock turbo will last but it will be on borrowed time. Remember any upgrade is going to put strain on the turbo with high EBP. Stage 1.5/2's will require a upgraded turbo.
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Old 09-14-2013, 09:41 PM
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I see your from Beaverton... Is that Beaverton Oregon? If so, check out the CCR thread.
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i have AC codes/ stage ones in the truck in my sig, and it is night and day compred to stock injectors. the truck will do whatever i want it to and still get good fuel mileage.
i also have a 96 crew cab long bed 4x4 with rosewood 1.5 with pretty much the same mods as the truck in my sig other than an innercooler and a 1.0 turbine housing. and the truck will flat out run. egts are manageable. i went with the larger nozzles on this truck because i wanted a little more power to get the land yacht moving, and it does move now. im happy with how the truck runs. im saving up for bellowed up pipes and a ww2 for it now.
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:37 PM
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The OP doesn't have an upgraded housing or an intercooler... So I think the stage one injectors would be his limit otherwise his EGTs are going to be hard to manage while hailing arse...right? Plus that truck would smoke a lot before spool up and WOT.
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I see your from Beaverton... Is that Beaverton Oregon? If so, check out the CCR thread.

Oregon it is. What is CCR?


I'll be intercooled here in a few weeks. High EGTS are unacceptable when in daily or tow tune. I pull large hills running down south for the races, and really dislike not keeping up with traffic.

You think with being intercooled and having the billet wheel I'll have trouble with the 1.5s?
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AH, must be Coal Rollers? I'll check it out.

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unless you are sure you do not ever want more power, get the 2's. you can always have your tuner can pull fuel to manage EGTs. i had 160/100 injectors, stock turbo, IC, and TW tunes. ran that way for 15K miles pulled a trailer cross country. EGTs never got over 1250.

now i have upgraded my turbo to a D66 with a WW2 and a 1.0 housing, and new tunes. IMO a D66 needs a smaller housing or you will have excessive smoke and high EGTs. you'll like 1's or 2's, but don't tow without an IC
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Agree, just go stage 2, intercool it, and discuss options with your tuner
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