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post #1 of 11 Old 12-01-2012, 04:54 PM Thread Starter
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How not to smoke?

I have been wanting a set of stage one injectors for a while. Had the money all saved then something came up. Starting to get the funds again. Truck has built trans, intake, exhaust, gauges, intercoole,r PHP tunes. I use this truck for towing only.

I drove a 24 valve dodge that could black out the sun. I felt like an *** driving it. No matter what I did I left a huge amount of smoke. I dont want my truck to smoke. Does this become a big problem once more fuel is added?

I will have PHP or Beans do the tune afterwards.
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shouldn't smoke with stage ones

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Yup, more fuel = More smoke.
You need to match the air you are putting to the fuel.
Tuning also plays a BIG part

I can black out the road on my race tune and DD tune with only 120cc injectors.
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Get matts tunes from Gearhead, he has almost a smoke free tune in every setting besides race.

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Does installing a d66 help clean up the smoke?
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im not so sure if stage one injectors will spin a D66 properly. call beans and ask them. what i was always told was D66 was for stage 2s and a stock turbo for stage 1s. but yes a better flowing turbo will help clan up smoke but it as a balance between fuel and turbo size, if you go too small it will smoke constantly as not enough air. if you go too big it will smoke off a stop because it cant spool fast enough to push air until higher up the RPM range

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I have stage 1's on a stock turbo and it goes pretty good. I am curious about this D66! Isn't stock turbo 60mm? Is 66mm that much of a difference?


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Stock turbo is 58mm / 750cfm. D66 is 66mm / 1050cfm. As Brad and Frank already said tuning is your most important part. There is a guy on here that pops in infrequently but runs a clean(-ish) 400cc injector setup.

OP, you are actually really close to Industrial Injection. True they are Chevy heavy but they do do a lot of Powerstroke work. Ask about what kind of tuning they could offer to your truck. If they sell PHP or Tony Wildman then a live tuning session is in order to make your truck perfect in your eyes for whatever injectors you end up choosing.

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I run a d66 with stage ones. Spools just fine when you really lay into it you get some smoke at first but the d66 cleans it up pretty fast. I run beans tunes, i hit 32psi with this set up sometimes ill see 35psi. Even with no chip the d66 has no problem spooling its a great turbo i ran my truck for a week while my chip was getting reburned and theres not really any lag and still push 20psi. You can run a d66 with stock sticks all the way up to 238's those need live tuning to make sure the drive pressure is in check but beans has trucks running 238's on a d66. Putting down right around 450hp

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Its all about de fueling and watching your boost guage before feeding the beast..defueling will pull back to less than stock fuel if thats what is programed..

D66...stick to stage 1's..maybe 2's never larger...its still a stock style turbo and won't live any longer at hi boost levels.
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