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Which Injectors?

I'm getting ready to upgrade my injectors. Thinking either "Baby Swamps" from Swamps or Stage 1's from Beans. Whichever I go with, I will have them reburn my chip. They are pretty close to same on pricing so that doesnt matter. Just wondering some opinions on which would be better for the money.
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What are you looking to do with your truck?
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Just looking for a little more power without having to upgrade the hpop and turbo right away. Thats why I am just going to the stage 1's. Just didnt know who is better, or if there is even a differance in them.
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For the price go with stage 1s. Turbo will be fine, hpop will need upgraded and so will fuel system. Even with baby swamps you will need hpop and fuel. The upgrade can be a 17* out of a SD should do just fine for either.

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They are both great options, Do research on which ones you want from people that have personally ran them not people that just read reviews. Who are you going to have do your tuning?
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I agree. I would say either 160cc or 180cc stage 1 injectors. I researched the daylights out of the same subject and settled on 160cc 30% over injectors but, I was convinced to get the 175cc 30% over injectors when I was ordering. Personally, I would go with 180cc stage ones from a reputable dealer that offers supporting custom tunes tailored for your specific setup.

I am original owner of 97 Extended Cab 4x4 with 86,000 miles, Unlimited Diesel 175/30 Stage 1.5 Injectors, ATS Intercooler, Tony Wildman 6 Position Chip, 4" Turbo Back Diamond Eye Exhaust, Stealth SPR1 HPOP, Wicked Wheel 2, Hypermax Combo Boost/EGT Gauge, DIY Intake, FPR Mod, CCV Mod, IDM Mod, 203 degree T Stat, Stainless Steel High Pressure Crossover Line, Fitch Fuel Catalyst, 40,000 lb. Trucool Max Transmission Cooler. Next up a Bean's D-66, electric fuel, torque converter and a valve body.
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Wait... are baby swamps 140s or 175s? I may be thinkin of the tranny savers

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The Baby Swamps are 150cc injectors with stock nozzles.

150/146 "Baby Swamp" Single-Shot Injectors, Tow (Mild Street) - Swamp's Diesel Performance

I ended up getting the size belowthrough Nate at Unlimited Diesel. The lifetime warranty and not having to send in a core charge help make the decision to go with Unlimited Diesel for me.

175/30% single shot injectors (94-97 NON California vehicles) - Swamp's Diesel Performance

There is one in the middle as well. It would be a 175 or 180cc with stock nozzles. I believe the would be a great way to go.

Oh yeah, there are 160cc/30% over injectors as well that are between the ones list directly above and the 175/30 over I ended up getting.

You really need to determine your horsepower target before you start. I wanted to be able to make 400 rea wheel horse power. I could have done that with 160/30 over injectors but, went with 175/30 over just to be sure I meet my goal.

I am original owner of 97 Extended Cab 4x4 with 86,000 miles, Unlimited Diesel 175/30 Stage 1.5 Injectors, ATS Intercooler, Tony Wildman 6 Position Chip, 4" Turbo Back Diamond Eye Exhaust, Stealth SPR1 HPOP, Wicked Wheel 2, Hypermax Combo Boost/EGT Gauge, DIY Intake, FPR Mod, CCV Mod, IDM Mod, 203 degree T Stat, Stainless Steel High Pressure Crossover Line, Fitch Fuel Catalyst, 40,000 lb. Trucool Max Transmission Cooler. Next up a Bean's D-66, electric fuel, torque converter and a valve body.
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Is it really necessary to upgrade fuel with the baby swamps? I was just looking at them and seriously considering them. I am not up on performance stuff, so I am just wondering. I figured on upgrading the hpop and and intercooler if I did them and maybe a D66 too, not sure on doing the turbo though. This is all in the future, but don't want to do it and find out they wouldn't work. I am not looking for a ton of power, but just to have a little fun with them.

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I have Rosewood stage ones on stock fuel and turbo with 17* HPOP. The truck runs great. Fuel pressure will hang in there at around 35-40psi in the big tune. I have no intercooler either. PHP tunes.

1997 Ford F-350 4x4 SRW regular cab manual trans.
-Rosewood 160cc, 17*HPOP, EPBV delete, 4.10s, 315/75r16

1996 Ford F-350 4x4 SRW CCLB manual trans. CALI spec
-ATS intercooler, WW2 w/ 1.0 housing/EPBV delete, Comp 910s, SD Efuel, 3.55s, 315/75r16

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