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post #1 of 12 Old 10-25-2009, 08:16 PM Thread Starter
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DIY 180-200cc injector kit

With the DIY stage one AA code 160cc injector kit is there any way to machine the piston more to make them 180cc-200cc injectors with stock nozzles?
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You could but with stock nozzles there's not much point. You're going to have a hard time getting it all out. Also you'll really start running into HPO problems. I don't recomend going anything bigger than a 160 on a stock oil pump.

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Its going to get a 17° pump or an adrenaline what ever fits the budget. how much needs to machined off/ modified?
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Reguardless you need a 17° pump. If you get an adrenaline then the bigger injectors would probably be OK.

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Going to 180-200cc with stock nozzles will yield higher hp right? And about how much more if you know.
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marginoly more than a 160cc as it takes to long to get all that fuel out of a stock nozzle. You want the fuel out as quickly as possible at the start of injection. But with such small nozzles it's hard to really get that much out in a good time frame.

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Why dont you just take the 160cc injectors and get larger nozzles? that would benefit you more.
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I dont have the supporting mods: no good tranny and a 1.0 hot housing that I dont feel like pulling but I may anyways after the stage ones cuz it spools way to fast with the blanket on it and wrapped up-pipes.
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I see, but i thought stock nozzles were only good for 160cc?
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Why dont you just take the 160cc injectors and get larger nozzles?
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I dont have the supporting mods...
Then going bigger than 160cc (or trying to go bigger) won't do you much good anyway, right?

You can put stock nozzles on a 400cc injector, but as mentioned earlier, it takes way too much time to try to empty all of that, the larger nozzle gets that fuel out quicker.
If you plan to upgrade everything else later, then you can go with Stage-2 now and just run lower hp chip settings.
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