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Exhaust brake thoughts

I have a 96 crew cab long bed automatic and have been kicking around the idea of an exhaust brake. I've spent many years in big rigs and love the sound of Jake brakes. I know I won't get the same sound etc. So I've looked around and have found couple options. I can get the banks system, BD, and some others or do the DIY exhaust brake and use the existing EBPV and put it on a toggle to control when I want it on and off. Just wanting some input and thought. Maybe pros and cons. Does it harm anything? Also when starting truck when cold I can hear the EBPV close for maybe 10 seconds then open back up. Is something wrong with it?
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I dont have one, but have heard that in extreme cases it can be hard on the transmission due to reverse torque. Others have also mentioned that it can be hard on the exhaust valves if excessive. But lots of people use them effectively.

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? Also when starting truck when cold I can hear the EBPV close for maybe 10 seconds then open back up. Is something wrong with it?[/QUOTE]

That's normal and when it gets colder like freezing it becomes more active .

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Check out this brake: D-Celerator Diesel Exhaust Brake

My brother had one on his 1995 F350, and I plan on puuting one on my 1995 F250.

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I have a 96 crew cab long bed automatic and have been kicking around the idea of an exhaust brake. I've spent many years in big rigs and love the sound of Jake brakes. I know I won't get the same sound etc. So I've looked around and have found couple options. I can get the banks system, BD, and some others or do the DIY exhaust brake and use the existing EBPV and put it on a toggle to control when I want it on and off. Just wanting some input and thought. Maybe pros and cons. Does it harm anything? Also when starting truck when cold I can hear the EBPV close for maybe 10 seconds then open back up. Is something wrong with it?
BANKs hasn't manufatcured the brake for a 1st gen Powerstroke for many years. You cannot get one from them or support for it if you happen to find one on some random shelf in a store.

Normal for EBPV, the pcm cycles the valve warm or cold to test that it's working. Otherwise it'll through an emissions code (depending on your PCMs current tuning).

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I dont have one, but have heard that in extreme cases it can be hard on the transmission due to reverse torque. Others have also mentioned that it can be hard on the exhaust valves if excessive. But lots of people use them effectively.
Or stuck shut if not balanced correctly or the spring brakes. The floating exhaust valve issue was more an issue with the older blades that didn't have a hole in them to relieve the back pressure at high RPM engagement. With today's parts and tuning the system will not engage unless several things line up.

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I control the EBPV with a switch, and have another switch to lock the torque converter when using the EBPV as an exhaust brake.

For the cost of a couple of switches, it's almost like the factory supplied our trucks with an exhaust brake...an industry leader back in the 90s!
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I know this is an old thread, but I just recently heard of this D-Celerator exhaust brake. I've been toying with getting a Pac Brake installed on my 97 F-350 diesel automatic, which I use for hauling our 7500 pound travel trailer around. I've had a couple hairy downhill 'excursions' which made me decide to get an exhaust brake.

My question is, does anyone have an opinion (uh oh, watch THIS!) on which might be the better choice? Pac Brake or D-Celerator? And why.
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i pulled pacbrake off, loved it for years and years but it caused my exhaust manifolds to leak on drivers side......
downhill with loads was nice, but simply stuffing a rag into the exhaust basically to slow down using the engine seems mortally wrong!

the only exhaust brake I'd recommend long term hard use.......is one with a wastegaste.....

good trailer brakes!
and good brakes all the way around!

since have gone to a full bore/no ebv/ nothing in the way after the turbo....that 10 seconds of closing during cold weather really helps......without it and the OEM fuel heater in the fuel filter bowl, i have a cold starting issue.
plain and simple, as goofy as it all seems it was engineered for a reason, i love efuel simply due to the clean engine, but have to sort out a way to pre-heat at the filters or something in cold.

I have 3 packbrake actuators and the ebv that all still work if someone wants to get it a try...
all the switches and solenoids
take $100 for whole lot?

looks like my drivers side manifold is slightly leaking 3 years after replacement, hoping it's not eroded the head.
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I got the D-Celerator installed and so far, like it. I haven't had the opportunity to try it on a white-knuckle downhill yet, but end of Feb we're headed in that direction.

One of the things that turned me in the direction of the D-Celerator is the how they have a second 'gate' alongside the one that closes off the exhaust. When the back pressure reaches the level that would cause a head problem, the second (but smaller) 'gate' opens to allow pressure to escape, which I did not see on the Pacbrake.

Once I actually experience a 'good' downhill with our 7k trailer in tow (or this case, in push mode) I'll be in a better position to give an opinion.

Everyone else who has installed exhaust brakes seems to swear by them, not at them . . .
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