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Old 02-17-2014, 03:18 PM
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Help!!! No Start after Cleaning EBP tube and Sensor

I need help here guys. I decided to clean the EBP tube and senser today and all seemed to go well but when I went to start it after finishing, the truck just cranks. I also changed out the GPR before doing the tube and sensor. It fired up just like always after the relay was changed out. Did a little bit of reading and then decided to try the EBP. Everything came out seemingly easy enough. The tube was clogged at the elbow that the sensor threads into. The tube wasn't totally clogged, but it was dirty, so cleaned it as I have read on the net. Cleaned the sensor but was careful not to poke anything any farther than 1/4" into the orifice. I have a little ultrasonic cleaner, so I put it in there for five minutes to see if it could get it a little cleaner inside. I made sure to keep the water only on the metal parts and not get any in the electrical end of things. Blew it out with compressed air when I was done with the ultrasonic again taking care to not blow directly into the orifice or electrical end.

I have the e-fuel conversion in my truck so there is no fuel bowl, but there are three plugs that I assume were from the old fuel bowl, so I figured I would tidy that up and tape them up so they would remain clean while sitting in the valley.

Only thing that I can think of was that I didn't disconnect the batteries while I did this. I didn't touch anything else that wasn't associated with the EBP other that the three plugs that I am assuming were from the fuel bowl.

I know that this is a little bit long winded, but I wanted to give you guys all the information that I have at this point. Any help would be appreciated. I haven't checked the fuses yet. This is my next step, but I am definately out of my league when it comes to electrical.

Thanks in advance for any help

Drew.
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:55 PM
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Does the WTS light come on? Does the tach move? Any smoke out the tailpipe?
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Maybe you shorted out the fuel heater when you were messing with the fuel bowl wiring. That would be my first guess. Check all fuses, especially #22 maxi 30a. Please let us know what you found. These threads are frustrating for the OP but like crack to the rest of us.
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Old 02-17-2014, 04:45 PM
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Along with the other items mentioned above (and if they check out), you can try starting it with the EBP sensor disconnected. If it starts then, you probably have a shorted EBP sensor). Cheers!
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Does the WTS light come on? Does the tach move? Any smoke out the tailpipe?
Wait to start light works, tach shows cranking rpms, no smoke out of the tailpipe. Tried unplugging the sensor and still won't start. To dark to work on it in the front yard now, so I'm stuck till tomorrow.

Any chance I could have done damage by not disconnecting the batteries before working on it? Talk about frustrating, I was pretty happy until I turned it over and all she did was crank.

Where would the fuel heater be? I no longer have a fuel bowl with the E fuel conversion. I thought that it was in the fuel filter/bowl assembly.

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Old 02-17-2014, 06:32 PM
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Whatever u got going on has nothing to do with what slight repairs u made. Impossible to have screwed anything up doin what u did. Check all ur fuses just for starters
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Is the truck cold? Plug in the block heater, maybe the gpr isnt working properly.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:17 AM
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So I checked all the fuses and found one 25A fuse (#4 std) burned out. . Replaced it but still no start. Checked all the fuses in the cab as well and they are all fine. Tried to start both with the EBP plugged in as well as unplugged. Also tried with the ICP sensor unplugged. All this did was give me a check engine light. Rechecked the GPR with multi tester and it is all good.
Had the wife crank the truck while I stood at the tailpipe and no smoke there while cranking.
Beginning to think it's not getting fuel as everything else seems to be in order. I have all lights and signals working as they should and all other accessories are working as well.
How would I test the fuel pump to eliminate that. It is one of the Bosch electrics that came in my Efuel kit.
Almost ready to have it towed to the local shop and hand it over to them.
Just shaking my head with my face in my hands right now. How does something seemingly so easy go bad like this?
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Just for the heck of it I'd check the #22 fuse with a continuity test. Looks alone could be deceiving.

You could check the pump simply by removing a hose from the post filter and turn the key on.

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when did you do the e fuel? before or after it last ran? my guess is you bumped the IPR or it is not connected and thus no HPO to the injectors and no fuel
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