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e4od to zf5 swap intrest in writeup??

So i had a neighbor from down the road approch me today and asked if i was intrested in swapping trannys and all related components with him. i of coarse said yes cause i want a 5 spd in my crew. i was just wondering if there is any intrest in a writeup of the project. also if anyone has any tips to share id appreciate it. im a diesel wrench by trade so this will be a pretty simple swap for me but i might have a few questions along the way. i figure if i can do this on clasd 8 rigs a pickup should b a breeze. His trucks identical to mine 97 cclb psd 4x4. one thing im not sure of is ds lenghts. same or different? thanks for any input! Derek

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drive shaft lengths will be different, but must be nice he wants to trade ya all of it straight up, wish that would happen to me, and yes, I would be interested in a write up

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Im pretty excited about the whole deal i guess he is doing a cummins swap and would rather have a auto which is beyond me but whatever floats his boat.

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If i were you i would jump on that pronto. Who swaps there 5 speed for an automatic??? honestly lol.

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You will need to swap drive shafts as well. Different lengths on the E4OD vs the ZF. Somewhere there is a list of parts required for the swap. PCM is a must, along with the trans harness. I will be doing the swap as well in a few weeks hopefully.

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One often-overlooked detail in this swap, when it's 4x4, is the connecting bar/rod between the t-case shifter and the link on the case. It's waaay shorter in the manual trucks.

Um, he's gonna try to drop in a Cummins with an E4OD behind it? WTF is he gonna use to control either/both? I don't know jack about the Fummins world, but just intuitively, I would presume it would have to have either a manual tranny behind it, or whatever automatic (Allison?) usually sits behind a Cummins.
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Allison is still electronic, he would need a stand alone trans controller

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One often-overlooked detail in this swap, when it's 4x4, is the connecting bar/rod between the t-case shifter and the link on the case. It's waaay shorter in the manual trucks.

Um, he's gonna try to drop in a Cummins with an E4OD behind it? WTF is he gonna use to control either/both? I don't know jack about the Fummins world, but just intuitively, I would presume it would have to have either a manual tranny behind it, or whatever automatic (Allison?) usually sits behind a Cummins.
If he is swapping a 12v the pcm will still control trans.

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I dont know his plans i didnt ask was more in shock that someone would want to actually do a trade like that. he is a nice guy and all but not someone i really care to spend much time with. lol im pretty sure its a early first gen non intercooled 12v he has just from glancing at it in his garage. its beyond me why he wants a e4od behind it but im sure ad hell not gonna argue with him at all on the subject as to risk changing his mind!

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So i had a neighbor from down the road approch me today and asked if i was intrested in swapping trannys and all related components with him. i of coarse said yes cause i want a 5 spd in my crew. i was just wondering if there is any intrest in a writeup of the project. also if anyone has any tips to share id appreciate it. im a diesel wrench by trade so this will be a pretty simple swap for me but i might have a few questions along the way. i figure if i can do this on clasd 8 rigs a pickup should b a breeze. His trucks identical to mine 97 cclb psd 4x4. one thing im not sure of is ds lenghts. same or different? thanks for any input! Derek
I went from auto to Zf5 on my truck, but I had a donor truck and got the power stroke motor and all the wiring harness . My truck was a Factory IDI turbo truck.



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