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05+ Axle Swap vs. D60 Swap

So I'm seriously debating saving more and buying a wrecked SD, so I want to know from the guys that have already done this, what exactly I'm getting into since the regular d60 swap just bolts in. I know the 05+ axles require cutting and welding but what are the gains of doing this? for example ive read; bigger rotors, 4wh abs, 4wh db, axle ratios, and hydroboost I think? How hard/envolved is it to get all that stuff to work properly? How much, rough guess, of time and money have you guys put into it?

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U will not get 4 wheel abs without some serious mods of swaping in a SD moduleand computer and such. But the sensors are there.

The advantages are better ride, smaller turning radius (my truck can out turn a reg cab long bed with a d-60 by far), bigger brakes, 3.73s if u want, easier to find lift its for that ride nice if u so choose. The hydroboost can be done on a stock truck with great results.

The downfall is the axles are heavier, unit bearing hubs, no aftermarket support on selectable hubs and death wobble.

I think it is easier to find a low mileage set of axles that don't require to be rebuilt. Take the 1000 u spent on the d-60 and 500 u spent in joints, seals, ext, and 500 u may have in it to have it re-geared and u have bought a matching pair of 05+ axles.

The swap isnt that hard, really.... the rear is self explainitory while the frt just requires a lot of holes to be drilled. The hardest part is the track bar mount which if u know a good welder or are one yourself is not a problem. The only cutting u have is the trimming of the engine cross member and the old stuff coming out.

All the stuff that u need to buy from Cary at CT Performance depends on your fabrication skills and how thrifty, or how ingenuitive u are. I picked up a rolling chassis with 40k miles for 2000 bucks. I found jordan (Jlm93) a rolling chassis minus the center section of frame with 150k and all the driveshafts for 1100. I found seth (strokedNY) a set of 08 axles with 3000 miles with everything he will need minus a drag link and a sway bar for 1500. Honestly with these miles and prices why would u pay 1000 bucks for a 250k mile axle

All said and done with price of sale, gas to travel from MD to GA and back (the items i had to buy my wife because i did this across mothers day weekend), nuts and bolts, lift kit, wheels, tires, alignment, and the things i needed i prolly have 5k in it. Sold my old wheels for 300, and axles for 400, for a total of 4200. Without the lift kit and if i made stuff on my own i could have done it with the sale price at 2k for 3700 (with fuel to pick it up blah blah and selling old stuff)

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D60 has a terrible turning radius lol, but I bought my truck with a huge winch and front bumper, I traded those for my axle so I have the cost of 2 new u joints in my swap, so roughly $50 barter is king, and when I get my dually I will use 05+ axles like Seth, but just a d60 swap is a lot easier and my axle had 125k on it I did not do anything but check the bearings

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Ok thanks that helps a lot can u put the hydroboost from the sd on the obs

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It can be done but the fire wall will have to be modified ad the bolt pattern on the SD hydroboost is different.. but it has been done. If u find a good wrecker u can have your axles for free. The 6.0 if it runs and has decent mileage is worth around 3k.if u can do a little work to it. Re do it with head studs ans new injectors u can polly get 4500 for it an may sell a little faster. Make less but sell faster.

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Or find an f-sd and pull it from that it will bolt on your firewall, I have one on the shelf in my garage waiting to get installed actually

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That is the best route. But if u get one that is good in the wrecked truck then try to make it work

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Ok thanks guys are gas f250s the same axles, rear leafs and brakes minus the coils since they're rated for a gas engine? Cuz I'm going to look for the cheapest way into a complete truck which would be a gas f250/f350 4x4 work truck that's rolled over, ideally im starting to searching for a f350 4x4 6.0 reg cab long bed that's rolled over, titled parts only, or hit a tree or pole, something along the totaled beyond repair

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What all do I need from an obs f-sd for the hydroboost, and what exactly is hydroboost

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I first did this swap in early '08..we have everything needed to do this. PM me if I can help.
You don't need hydro boost and IMO just a waste of time and $ as the brakes will stop insanely good with very little pressure on the pedal.
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