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Old 01-05-2013, 06:52 AM
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Truck just died...need help asap!!

I know this is probably in the wrong section but I figured it would get more traffic here. So here's the deal, I parked my truck in November so I could start doing some work on it. I got busy and it sat under my car port until this morning. My dad decided to take it out to charge the batteries this morning and as he was going along and it just died. Before I parked it I put power service in both tanks so the fuel wouldn't gel and I ran probably 10 miles on both tanks so it would mix. He said it didnt make any odd sounds or anything, it just died. It'll turn over but it wont fire...any one have any good ideas? Oh and its been bolow freezing for about 4 days now too...

sent from a smoke signal...that I took a picture of with my S3..then translated to english words.
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Old 01-05-2013, 06:59 AM
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If it's the truck in your sig, it's the right section. Typical crank-no-start questions:
* Does the WTS light come on?
* Does the tach move when you crank it?
* Any white smoke?

Hmm, November - does it still have summer fuel in it? Which PS product did you use, gray bottle or white?

When your dad started it, how hard was it to start?
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Old 01-05-2013, 07:03 AM
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Yep..its that turd lol

*yes
*I'll ask
*I'll ask

It is definitely summer fuel, I wanna say white. He said it barely started but it ran fine once he got it going.

sent from a smoke signal...that I took a picture of with my S3..then translated to english words.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:50 PM
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He said he doesnt remember 100% if the tach moved but he doesnt think it did. He didnt look for white smoke either so who knows. What significance would the tach moving have? White smoke would signal fuel right? Lets say hypothetically that there was white smoke and it woildnt fire, where does that land me? Im gonna try to make it over there next weekend to see what the deal is. It died like an 1/8th of a mile from the house when he left with it. Im really hoping for just some gelled fuel. It supposed to be in the 50's this coming week so we'll see.

sent from a smoke signal...that I took a picture of with my S3..then translated to english words.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:57 PM
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Tach moving means CPS is _probably_ not the cause. If there's tach and smoke, and given the circumstances, gelled fuel is a strong possibility. Get some Power Service Diesel 911 and put it right into the filter bowl. Then put some in whichever tank has _less_ fuel (so it's more concentrated) and run off that tank. And get some winter fuel in those tanks ASAP.
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Old 01-05-2013, 03:46 PM
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Not to be a newb but whats a cps?

sent from a smoke signal...that I took a picture of with my S3..then translated to english words.
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Camshaft position sensor. It's about a ten minute job and a $35 part. Keep a spare in the truck always.
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Old 01-05-2013, 04:17 PM
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I like the sounds of that lol so if the tach jumps while it cranks the cps is shot? Given the situation are there any other possible failures?

sent from a smoke signal...that I took a picture of with my S3..then translated to english words.
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No, if the tach moves, then the CPS is probably GOOD. If the tach _doesn't_ move, then the CPS is suspect. But as said, good to have a spare in the glove box anyway. Get one from the Ford or International dealer, NOT an aftermarket part.

Could still be a lot of other things - IDM, injector wiring / valve cover harnesses, injection pressure, etc....
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