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NEWBIE... Air Filter Question

ok so like the title says i need help with an air filter... so i have been poking around on other threads and keep seeing that everybody is pretty much running the NAPA 6637. and i havent yet really got a straight answer on why everybody chooses it over something like a K&N! or something to that nature! it seems like the K&N would flow more air which would give my truck more power. but can somebody tell me in detail why the 6637 and WHY NOT the K&N?

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Keep reading. The problem is that the K&N filter and others like it have a tendency to let a lot of dust through them even when properly maintained. If you look through a K&N even brand new and freshly oiled you can see a lot of pinholes in the gauze. These pinholes let a lot of dirt through on these engines because they flow so much air all the time (no throttle plate to stop air flow like a gas engine). A 6637 air filter IIRC has three times the amount of pleats than the K&N so there is a lot more filtering surface.

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Many say the 6637 filters better and some argue flows well because of its many pleated surfaces. Many say that while the K&N (or other oiled-cotton types) does flow lots of air the filtering isn't as good because of the turbo sucking air through it faster than a non-turbo engine would so it doesn't hold onto as much of the dirt.

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the 6637/donaldson/fram ca 8037 are thicker, and while they do not allow as much air as fast as a k&n, they allow a hell of alot more than stock, but filter the air coming through much better than stock, and oiled filters like the k&n, because of the very high flow rate of the k&n and the less filtering will dust the turbo, and pit it, this is no good for a turbo because it just causes them to fail that much faster.

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Keep reading. The problem is that the K&N filter and others like it have a tendency to let a lot of dust through them even when properly maintained. If you look through a K&N even brand new and freshly oiled you can see a lot of pinholes in the gauze. These pinholes let a lot of dirt through on these engines because they flow so much air all the time (no throttle plate to stop air flow like a gas engine). A 6637 air filter IIRC has three times the amount of pleats than the K&N so there is a lot more filtering surface.
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Many say the 6637 filters better and some argue flows well because of its many pleated surfaces. Many say that while the K&N (or other oiled-cotton types) does flow lots of air the filtering isn't as good because of the turbo sucking air through it faster than a non-turbo engine would so it doesn't hold onto as much of the dirt.

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so in turn even if the 6637 does not flow as much air as the K&N the 6637 is protecting your turbo which therfore gives you the same amount of power as a K&N? correct me if im wrong please.
sorry for the stupid question but im new to the diesel world and want to protect my investment just as much as anybody else..
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the 6637 protects and is comparable to the k&n, but the k&n will out flow

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the 6637 protects and is comparable to the k&n, but the k&n will out flow
Gotcha! that answers alot! im glad to know that the K&N's dont protect as well now! off the top of ur head how much does a 6637 cost?
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I'm pretty sure that it has been proven that the 6637 will flow just as much as the K&N and even if it flowed slightly less the knowledge of the turbo lasting is well worth it IMO. I have pulled an repaired several turbo's for people that where running the K&N filters and it's a real PITA.

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anywhere from 35-67 is what people keep saying, i used the fram ca 8037, cost $20 so just shows im cheap, but the filter is almost exact same, its orange tho, and from what i have read, none of these are hydrophobic, thse tend to cost a bit more

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I'm pretty sure that it has been proven that the 6637 will flow just as much as the K&N and even if it flowed slightly less the knowledge of the turbo lasting is will worth it IMO. I have pulled an repaired several turbo's for people that where running the K&N filters and it's a real PITA.
yea i will definatly take the safety of my PSD now that i know the 6637. i would much rather be safe then run a K&N for more flow and be sry! only seems smart!
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