won't start - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 19 Old 05-12-2013, 07:00 PM Thread Starter
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
won't start

I have a 94 f350 7.3 turbo diesel. took it to a shop to stop the oil leak from the turbo. The j.a. mecanic had it for 2 weeks, fixed the leak but didn't change the 2in. piece of fuel line hose under the fuel filter. Drove it for about 3 months and the hose blew out, I pulled up to a stop sign, it died and I haven't got it to start since. Replaced that hose, 2 high pressure hoses on the intake, the water pump, pulleys and belt, and have re primed with no luck. Checked all the fuses, need help!
FordGirlF350 is offline  
post #2 of 19 Old 05-13-2013, 09:09 AM
BANNED by Kris
 
BigFuel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 6,205
Thanks: 52
Thanked 113 Times in 105 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Check Engine light and WTS light light up when you cycle the key? No white smoke from the exhaust after about 10 seconds of cranking?


Matt
'97
-Bean's: 160/100 (FF Injectors), 2/ 6-POS chips (TW & Beans tunes), Overboost controller, E-Fuel
-BANKs: downpipe, full exhaust, gauges, intercooler
-Irate: T-4 kit, IC pipes, 3" Irate Plenums, BASB Turbo
-Stage II trans.
-Mag-Hytec trans. and pumpkin covers
-6637, CCV, IDM, 6.0 Fan, 49-Federal PCM swap, MAP line Mod
-370 Amp alt., 40k trans cooler, ADRENALINE PUMP
-twin on-board air w/ 10 gal. tank

-Oh, and a 2015 F350 6.7L DRW 4x4

Re-pinning '97 Cali PCM to Federal
BigFuel is offline  
post #3 of 19 Old 05-13-2013, 09:48 AM
FJuanfiddy mod


 
Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Trempealeau, WI
Posts: 31,835
Thanks: 132
Thanked 186 Times in 166 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via Yahoo to Dave
Being a 94 is this an IDI or PSD?

Email: Dave@powerstroke.org
2011 F150 Ecoboost Crew cab lariat. Custom tunes from KEM and 5Star, and Unleashed
2012 F150 Crew Cab Ecoboost stock for now-Totaled March 12 2015
2006 F250 ECSB Lariat 4x4

Leveling kit, 315/70/17 Kelly TSRs on Method race wheels
ARP studs and OEM gaskets done by Renegade Diesel
ECM and Atlas 40 FICM tuned by Bill at PHP SCT tunes by Truck Source Diesel. Gearhead, Innovative, Wildman and Tyrant diesel
Flowmaster/MBRP Hybrid Exhaust
Edge Insight CTS
Coolant filter
Bulletproof diesel FICM EGR Delete, Oil Cooler and Water Pump, and Light bar.
Dually LED lights from Stealth Automotive/Xpedition Outfitters
No Limit Fab 6.0 Cold Air Intake
http://www.bulletproofdiesel.com/default.asp
http://nolimitfabrication.com/
Dave is online now  
post #4 of 19 Old 05-13-2013, 06:54 PM Thread Starter
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Unhappy

It is a powerstroke. Yes the wts light comes on but the check engine light just flashes real quick, and no white smoke when it usually smokes alot. Also, I was always told they got good gas milege and I have had her 10 years now and never got over 10mpg...
FordGirlF350 is offline  
post #5 of 19 Old 05-13-2013, 07:03 PM
BANNED by Kris
 
BigFuel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 6,205
Thanks: 52
Thanked 113 Times in 105 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Something's wrong. I get 17.2MPGs. Look here and find 34 and 49 (top just left of center). Get them half spun off 51 and 52. Throw a rag over them and have someone else crank the motor while you watch. These are the fuel return lines from the heads. When they start sputtering fuel you've pushed most of the air out. Tighten them back up and try to start again. Do not crank longer that 10 seconds and wait 5 minutes to rest. Otherwise you risk burning up the starter.



Matt
'97
-Bean's: 160/100 (FF Injectors), 2/ 6-POS chips (TW & Beans tunes), Overboost controller, E-Fuel
-BANKs: downpipe, full exhaust, gauges, intercooler
-Irate: T-4 kit, IC pipes, 3" Irate Plenums, BASB Turbo
-Stage II trans.
-Mag-Hytec trans. and pumpkin covers
-6637, CCV, IDM, 6.0 Fan, 49-Federal PCM swap, MAP line Mod
-370 Amp alt., 40k trans cooler, ADRENALINE PUMP
-twin on-board air w/ 10 gal. tank

-Oh, and a 2015 F350 6.7L DRW 4x4

Re-pinning '97 Cali PCM to Federal
BigFuel is offline  
post #6 of 19 Old 05-15-2013, 06:49 PM Thread Starter
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Okay, tried repeatedly, diesel coming out of lines but still no smoke and still won't start. should I replace all the fuel lines or do you have any other suggestions? When we we're trying to fix the leak in the turbo, we attempted twice, gave up and took it to a... shoddy mechanic who said they would have it fixed in 2 to 3 days and he had it two weeks, said that he couldn't get the turbo off and it was "so hard, he never had that much trouble getting a turbo off", mind you we had it off twice in the 2 weeks before we took it in to him. He also said he bet it would be back in a month leaking some where else. The kid looked like he was only 17 or 18, and the owner who was a certified diesel mechanic probly didn't even look under the hood, so i'm not in a hurry to try another one because it was so expensive
FordGirlF350 is offline  
post #7 of 19 Old 05-15-2013, 07:35 PM
BANNED by Kris
 
BigFuel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 6,205
Thanks: 52
Thanked 113 Times in 105 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I know that situation with the mechanic. Back to basics. I know you posted some of this but I'll put it all out there. Check:

- oil level in the pan
- pull the HPOP sump plug and look in. What is the oil level in this second sump?
- fuses (not with your eyes but with a meter. Pay particular attention to 8, 9, and 22)
- swap relay 2 with 3
- does the RPM gauge bounce when you crank?
- pull one of the injector harness plugs off the valve cover and with a meter measure the voltage on the center pin with the key in run
- read fuel pressure, by using a cheap throw away tire pressure gauge, off the side of the fuel bowl (drivers side mid level) Schrader valve while someone cranks


Be careful that IF the engine starts during any of these tests to be ready to quickly shut it down. You are working with high voltages, fuel, and around that big radiator fan. Test and report please.

Matt
'97
-Bean's: 160/100 (FF Injectors), 2/ 6-POS chips (TW & Beans tunes), Overboost controller, E-Fuel
-BANKs: downpipe, full exhaust, gauges, intercooler
-Irate: T-4 kit, IC pipes, 3" Irate Plenums, BASB Turbo
-Stage II trans.
-Mag-Hytec trans. and pumpkin covers
-6637, CCV, IDM, 6.0 Fan, 49-Federal PCM swap, MAP line Mod
-370 Amp alt., 40k trans cooler, ADRENALINE PUMP
-twin on-board air w/ 10 gal. tank

-Oh, and a 2015 F350 6.7L DRW 4x4

Re-pinning '97 Cali PCM to Federal

Last edited by BigFuel; 05-15-2013 at 07:40 PM.
BigFuel is offline  
post #8 of 19 Old 06-29-2013, 06:51 AM Thread Starter
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Cool

So have had a few more vehicles die and have had to put my truck on hold for a minute. Back to trying to fix and been trying to find a book for this truck, the one we got has no detailed info on the diesel motor however and are once again stuck. Don't know where the sump is, etc. need some exploded pics or something for a better idea of what i'm looking at and thank you so much for your time and all your help, it is VERY much apprieciated!
FordGirlF350 is offline  
post #9 of 19 Old 06-29-2013, 07:28 AM
BANNED by Kris
 
BigFuel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 6,205
Thanks: 52
Thanked 113 Times in 105 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I can take a pic in a little bit but put your hand on the alternator, move it to the right about 8-10 inches, now it should be on this dull grey hump in the center of the block (above the water pump and between the alternator and A/C compressor). The dull grey hump is the HPOP sump. To the right of the top of it should be a 9/16-ish brass colored plug. This is the check/fill plug for the sump.

Don't buy a book, go here:

OBS Manual

It's a little confusing at first how things are cataloged but you will quickly figure it out.

Matt
'97
-Bean's: 160/100 (FF Injectors), 2/ 6-POS chips (TW & Beans tunes), Overboost controller, E-Fuel
-BANKs: downpipe, full exhaust, gauges, intercooler
-Irate: T-4 kit, IC pipes, 3" Irate Plenums, BASB Turbo
-Stage II trans.
-Mag-Hytec trans. and pumpkin covers
-6637, CCV, IDM, 6.0 Fan, 49-Federal PCM swap, MAP line Mod
-370 Amp alt., 40k trans cooler, ADRENALINE PUMP
-twin on-board air w/ 10 gal. tank

-Oh, and a 2015 F350 6.7L DRW 4x4

Re-pinning '97 Cali PCM to Federal
BigFuel is offline  
post #10 of 19 Old 07-16-2013, 07:12 AM Thread Starter
Powerstroke.org Rookie
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Sump is dry, now what? Do i pour oil into it, prime it some how? Husband thought it would be a good idea, 2 weeks ago, to arc out on the alternator and get a third degree burn from the watch welding together so another little hiatus and back to work. It drained both batteries into his watch. Another "note to self moment" we live we learn...
FordGirlF350 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome