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Old 12-20-2013, 06:06 PM
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96 power stroke won't turn over

Soo lately my truck has been acting up. It'll start great for a while and then all off a sudden ill turn the key and the starter won't work. Then randomly a little while later try again and boom it cranks great and fires right up. So I replaced the starter and the starter solenoid in the fender. But it still does the same thing. It's driving me insane. Been trying to figure this out for the past two weeks. When it works it's perfect and then all of a sudden turn the key and nothing. Everything still works like the wait to start and everything starter just won't go. I've cleaned all the battery terminals and all connections to do with the starter.


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As soon as it doesnt do it leave the key on and go under the hood and try shorting the starter solenoid on the fender. I am suspecting its a connection between the key and the fender mounted solenoid
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Automatic or manual transmission?
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As soon as it doesnt do it leave the key on and go under the hood and try shorting the starter solenoid on the fender. I am suspecting its a connection between the key and the fender mounted solenoid
Okay that worked. And it's a manual transmission. Is it bad to start it this way ?
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Sounds like your clutch switch is going out. Its not really bad. Its just not very practical. Odds are you need to jump the wiring harness that plugs into the clutch pedal
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Rather than jumping the two big terminals on the relay (that's the RELAY on the fender, BTW; the SOLENOID is on the starter), run a jumper wire from the battery + to the SMALL terminal on the relay. If it starts then, then the relay and starter are good, and indeed the problem is upstream - clutch switch as mentioned, ignition switch, wiring. If it still doesn't start, then put a voltmeter on the wire to the small terminal and have someone turn the key to the START position. See if you get voltage. If you do, then the ignition switch, etc. upstream are good, and the relay is the prime suspect.

Do you notice extra free play or slop in the clutch pedal?
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Sounds like your clutch switch is going out. Its not really bad. Its just not very practical. Odds are you need to jump the wiring harness that plugs into the clutch pedal
Pretty sure that already is jumped. I've never had to push the clutch in to start It before
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Tests:
Rather than jumping the two big terminals on the relay (that's the RELAY on the fender, BTW; the SOLENOID is on the starter), run a jumper wire from the battery + to the SMALL terminal on the relay. If it starts then, then the relay and starter are good, and indeed the problem is upstream - clutch switch as mentioned, ignition switch, wiring. If it still doesn't start, then put a voltmeter on the wire to the small terminal and have someone turn the key to the START position. See if you get voltage. If you do, then the ignition switch, etc. upstream are good, and the relay is the prime suspect.

Do you notice extra free play or slop in the clutch pedal?
No don't notice anything different. Okay sorry wrong terms there but yeah it shouldn't be the relay since it's brand new. It must be something. Up stream. I'll do some testing tomorrow
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"Brand new" doesn't always mean "working". Seems like cheap FLAPS parts are coming up DOA more and more often.

Maybe your clutch switch jumper is working loose?....
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"Brand new" doesn't always mean "working". Seems like cheap FLAPS parts are coming up DOA more and more often.

Maybe your clutch switch jumper is working loose?....
Yeah I know but I'll check the clutch setup and see. Hopefully that's it.
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