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No start, white smoke, fuel related

solved the problem was gpr

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Hey Sour,

Just asking, are you sure that your Glow Plug System is working? I can imagine that it's getting pretty cold up there at night (hell during the day even). The Schrader valve is there to purge air and can also be used with a cheap dial tire gauge to get the fuel pressure (this wastes the gauge but knowing what the fuel pressure is nice). Does this happen with both tanks? What are your local temps? Are you sure your fuel isn't gelling in the heads making it really hard to inject into the cylinder? Have I given you my No Start Chart Yet?

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Do you know your fuel pressure while cranking? Gelling fuel will make it really hard to start in the mornings. First thing tomorrow morning open the fuel bowl lid and look inside. Careful, it's under pressure. Take a pic for me to see. I use Diesel Kleen (white container) in the winter but then I'm in So. Cal. (like I need it right).

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I am begining to wonder if i am running JP-8 jet fuel from where I fill up at, I might try to add 2 stroke oil into my fuel and see how my truck reacts. will let u know.
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On a good fuel pump and stable fuel system fuel pressure should be close to a stable 60 psi. The fuel bowl should not have any air in it normally so opening the lid would push fuel out. It is really wierd that dumping fuel is what is making this thing start. If it sits over night and you open the bowl in the morning. PM me an email address.

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What year truck are you working on? How manny miles? When you go to drain the fuel the second time, do you leave the key on?

I think this still sounds like a glow plug or glow plug relay issue. When my GPR was failing, I would need to cycle it and crank it several times before it would start.

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My truck has the same problem i tested my gpr and its not giving full 12 volts to glow plugs. So on the first start of the day i cycle the glow plugs 3 to 5 times and it fires right up. I would check my gp system if i was u just my. .02



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