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GM master tech has a E4OD (20 bolt pan) question

I was given a 1995 F-250 with the 7.3 Turbo Powerstroke with a measly 170,000 miles, body is somewhat rough but still solid. lot of new new stuff on it too. has what former owner calls a Bully pipe coming off the turbo. has a snowplow on it too, not installed in these pics. RUNS AWESOME, here's a couple pics....

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now here is my issue, it will not move.

what I have done so far.....

I took the upper line off the trans cooler and had the old lady start her up, and got a real good STRONG stream of fluid coming out. it was very dirty but did not smell burnt. It only ran about 1-2 seconds and I had her shut it down. so I must now assume the pump is good.

I then pulled the lines off the trans cooler and can blow thru the top cooler inlet. seems to be some(not tons) of the dreaded fine particulate in the fluid. but the cooler was CLEAR. I blew all the fluid out of the cooler with nothing more than lung power.

I am draining the fluid from the pan now, and intend to inspect the filter in the morning.

now, this tranny was rebuilt 2 yrs ago and has around 50,000 miles on the rebuild. a new torque converter was installed at the time.


further, the former owner told me when the tranny quit working he was driving at around 60 MPH and he heard a a loud "POP" noise and it was like it was in neutral.

he also said from time to time the O/D light was blinking.

Torque Converter failure?


if I replace the filter, fluid, and T/C, AND dismantle and wash the valve body, what are my chances? or is she roached?


If need be, I'll rebuild it my self. kit is around 150 bucks aftermarket.



any insight would be appreciated and great site you have here

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If the OD light was blinking theres codes stored. Could be the converter but more often than not its the VSS in the rear diff.

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Had the main shaft break on a work van with that style trans. Very loud bang then no go. Most likely will have to pull trans good luck.
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If the OD light was blinking theres codes stored. Could be the converter but more often than not its the VSS in the rear diff.
thanks, I had heard that, but could that cause it to have no gears whatsoever?


BTW, I have a bud coming over tomorrow with his scanner and we'll check for trans codes.
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Had the main shaft break on a work van with that style trans. Very loud bang then no go. Most likely will have to pull trans good luck.
I was thinking that too but I already eliminated that(Ithink). I had it on blocks and in 4x4 mode, and spun a wheel on the front and a back one spun as well.
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No that shouldnt cause it to have no gears.

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and park holds it on the slight hill its on and when shifted to any position the truck rolls back. the main shaft should be good right?
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Yeah that tells me the shaft is good.

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No that shouldnt cause it to have no gears.
I bet its the dang T/C.
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just another idea: I have yet to pull the pan, is the E4OD filter retained by bolts like Jeep filters are? if not, maybe the filter popped out? I have had GM's do that when they got hot.
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