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post #1 of 14 Old 07-12-2014, 01:16 PM Thread Starter
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2004 won't start dead on the road

I bought this truck a month ago thinking it was a good deal, it came with a report from Ford saying the FICM should be replaced.

The whole time I've had it, it has been very sluggish until warmed up, and barely moves until it hits second gear (which it normally slams into)

The truck never really liked starting unless I had my foot on the accelerator.
Sometimes it wouldn't start at all when hot unless I let it cool down.

It won't start at all now.
Oil is about 2 weeks old (Motorcraft filter)
Installed new FICM
Installed two new batteries (cranks a lot better)
If I just try to crank it, it won't even get close to starting
If I hold the pedal down, it will get close and puff little white smoke or condensation but won't start

I pulled the ICP it looks good, no oil on it
I checked the emergency fuel shutoff switch
There seems to be a little smoke coming from behind the turbo (unrelated leak)
I have found 2 holes that have been half-assed patched up on the intake (I don't think this is causing a no-start but any input on this would help_

My buddy hooked up his computer and it looks like IPR is staying too open when trying to crank it. Injectors passed some buzz test he did.


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If your buddy has a computer what kind of icp are you making while cranking?


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Have you tried pulling the ICP and see if it starts?

Have you pulled the IPR and checked the screen?

You may have a high pressure oil leak.


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I'm guessing that you didn't lose nearly as much as it appeared. Spills are like that. The last beer that I spilled was like a million ounces.
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Pulling the ICP didnt seem to change anything.
IPR will be next once I figure out how the hell to get to it.
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Yeah it's a pain unless you have the special socket. I know a couple people have made their own by cutting a slot in a socket for the plug.


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Icp While cranking between 900-1000
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Check your fuel pressure and for any codes.

Hook up monitor during start and check for ICP, IPR, FICMSYNC, FICM Volt, RPM.
Need ICP >500, FICMSYNC - YES, RPM>100, ICP volts>.8

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RPM stays at 0 when starting but no CMP faults...
IPR valve has a little crack in the plastic ring around the screen but this wouldn't cause a no start? Also tiny little pieces in the screen but not enough to cause a blockage...
Found the ground wire from the injector harness broken off, put a new eyelet on there.
Still won't start...



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One of the permissives to start is RPM needs to be over 100 rpm during crank. Check your crank sensor and wiring. I don't think your ipr is the issue since you said you got 900 to 1000 psi ICP during crank. I believe you can purchase a kit for the IPR with new screen and oring.
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wouldnt it throw a code if it was CPS issue? truck did not like starting hot, so id look at the dummy plugs however it is cold and not starting either now .

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