[choctaw]

I want to start a thread where we discuss the Liberal agenda.

I want to hear the benefits of having the Government care for and make decisions for us as Citizens. (cradle to grave)

I want to hear the reasons as well as having them proved out in real world applications (ie. Russia, Canada etc.), this is so I can understand the pros of becoming a socialist country.

This is not meant to be condescending to my liberal friends.

I am looking for truths not just talking points, because I realize I may have to change my point of view.