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Electricity in the engine, and more newb questions

Hey guys, i am interested in buying an older F250 and have some questions about them. I am looking for an engine that is as new as possible while still being all mechanical. I am looking for an engine with no electronics in it except for the radio and all that. As long as it can still drive with out any electronics that is what I am looking for. I was looking at the 7.3 IDI engines and I was told by some other people they were ok except for the starter which is ok cause it can be push started. Id appreciate any help on that fellas. Thanks so much.

Also what is the best MPG i can get out of a 4wd 250 reg cab and normal bed. Thanks so much guys.
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A bug out truck?

The 6.9 is electronics free too, as well as the older Cummins'


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hahah clearly you know whats up. So is the 7.3 IDI good to go for electronics free? Are they reliable... im more of a gun guy than a truck guy so im real basic on my knowledge and might have a difficult time maintaining it outside of oil changes and routine checks.
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LOL, yeah I know.

I'm not too sure if they're elec free engines or not, but I don't know that there was the technology back then to operate them with computers. An injection pump would be mechanical, so as long as the starter starts it, it should run. Now, I don't know how sensors and other things would work for certain instances, and I assume you're thinking about EMP's. You may have t take a look at a 6.9 for that scenario, they started building them in '83 IIRC. I would think the older the better for something like an EMP


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* Repaired FICM by BPD
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* Stage1 MTW turbo



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I was looking at the 12v cummins cause the only thing electric is the starter and fuel shut off solenoid. I can just park on a hill and turn it off by hand. I was hoping to find something similar to that. Yea I was looking for something for an EMP that is similar to that cummins. How reliable or the older fords. I really don't need to get stranded hah
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I'm far from an old diesel expert, but I know they weren't plagued with the issues the old GM diesels had. Check this out, it's for 87-91 F series trucks and Broncos



2006 F350 SOLD
* KMC XD Monsters wrapped in Hankook ATM's
* 08 style mirrors
* 4" TB exhaust
* SCT X2 with Gearhead, PHP and ID tunes
* Edge Insight CTS
*Full Bulletproof Diesel kit with remote oil cooler
* Blue FPR spring
* 6.4 Banjos
* Repaired FICM by BPD
* Dfuser coolant filter
* Stage1 MTW turbo



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I see solenoids there, but I guess you could get an extra set and keep them safe


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2006 F350 SOLD
* KMC XD Monsters wrapped in Hankook ATM's
* 08 style mirrors
* 4" TB exhaust
* SCT X2 with Gearhead, PHP and ID tunes
* Edge Insight CTS
*Full Bulletproof Diesel kit with remote oil cooler
* Blue FPR spring
* 6.4 Banjos
* Repaired FICM by BPD
* Dfuser coolant filter
* Stage1 MTW turbo



New truck has a Cummins and a handshaker
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hah I can tell that is some sort of layout of the electronics in the engines but that is way over my head .

Thanks for your help so far though man its greatly appreciated.

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Yeah, there are some parts in there that wouldn't survive that type of attack, but the list is MUCH shorter than it would be for my truck . I'm guessing that none of the relays would work, maybe the solenoids, fuel heater. I bet they're cheap to buy though

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* KMC XD Monsters wrapped in Hankook ATM's
* 08 style mirrors
* 4" TB exhaust
* SCT X2 with Gearhead, PHP and ID tunes
* Edge Insight CTS
*Full Bulletproof Diesel kit with remote oil cooler
* Blue FPR spring
* 6.4 Banjos
* Repaired FICM by BPD
* Dfuser coolant filter
* Stage1 MTW turbo



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are those parts pretty small and easily replaced? Say it went down on the highway could i keep them with me in the truck in a faraday cage, and then pop under the hood and replace them and be on my way?

What year trucks are we talking about specifically by the way?
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