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Possibly buying a 94 7.3 turbo diesel, a few questions

I am looking at buying a 94 f250 it's the turbo diesel IDI 7.3, non-powerstroke. Most of the information I am finding is just about the powerstroke engine. The one I am looking at the guy is asking a little over kbb for it, which may not be a bad deal if it's a solid truck. I don't plan on doing more than just bolt ons with it. I plan to use it for hauling/towing, and just a general work truck, I have no intentions of racing it or trying to make gobs of power. What are your thoughts on reliablity and also what do you think would be a fair price (assuming it's in good to fair shape) on a 94 regular cab, 4x4, auto with 169k on it? Thanks for your input.
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I think depending on the condition of the cab, interior, ect...but if its nice...$4-5K.

IDI's are simple, cheap, and easy to work on. Those are there pro's for sure. Heck you can buy all 8 injectors, with return line kit for the price of one powerstroke injector. That said...

They are underpowered. I have to warn everyone asking about this. You can turbo them, and turn up the pump for easy mods. It will be about as good as a lightly modded OBS PSD (94-97 powerstroke).

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I think depending on the condition of the cab, interior, ect...but if its nice...$4-5K.

IDI's are simple, cheap, and easy to work on. Those are there pro's for sure. Heck you can buy all 8 injectors, with return line kit for the price of one powerstroke injector. That said...

They are underpowered. I have to warn everyone asking about this. You can turbo them, and turn up the pump for easy mods. It will be about as good as a lightly modded OBS PSD (94-97 powerstroke).

even if it blue books for around 3k you would still think it would be worth that much?

Also the truck that I am considering is a turbo charged truck, it's just not the Direct injection Powerstroke, it's the IDI turbo diesel. According the FAQs here they come stock with 190hp and 385ft/lbs at the crank. Is this the engine you are saying is underpowered?
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I didn't think it would blue book that high. I would pay that much for a nice one. I'm just use to rust free trucks though.

Yes factory they are a little underpowered. You can get
them to run with a mild tuned PSD easily though. They difinatly have a much stronger bottom end than the powerstroke. The powerstroke just has a better platform for mods. Though you can get free hp and tq with a turn of an Allen wrench

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I would say anywhere from 3 to 5 would be accetable for a solid truck. I love the idi engine.

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I think depending on the condition of the cab, interior, ect...but if its nice...$4-5K.

IDI's are simple, cheap, and easy to work on. Those are there pro's for sure. Heck you can buy all 8 injectors, with return line kit for the price of one powerstroke injector. That said...

They are underpowered. I have to warn everyone asking about this. You can turbo them, and turn up the pump for easy mods. It will be about as good as a lightly modded OBS PSD (94-97 powerstroke).
Where did you get your ATS turbo?

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Bought it used from a guy back up in Oregon. He sells IDI parts, mostly injection parts. He had a few laying around. He rebuilt it for me, and sold it complete for $900. The 093 kit, which is a little better than the factory IDI ATS turbo

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Bought it used from a guy back up in Oregon. He sells IDI parts, mostly injection parts. He had a few laying around. He rebuilt it for me, and sold it complete for $900. The 093 kit, which is a little better than the factory IDI ATS turbo
Could i buy one from him?

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Send me a pm I will hook youup with severalguys wanting to sell some turbos.

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looking at differnt sites (kbb and nada) I am finding that kbb says there is a 1500 difference in value of a turbo diesel and a powerstroke diesel, but on the nada site there is only one turbo diesel option, it does not seperate the non powerstroke from the powerstroke. Do you guys think the powerstroke makes a $1500 difference?
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