Hey guys, realize that this movie is supposed to change the Batman story back to it's dark roots, I used to read the comic books and it was very dark, then they went to the campy 60's style which made fun of Batman, and what made him what he was, Same thing with the last series of movies. This is supposed to change all that, and well, when the chit hits the fan, drama ensues, just like in real life. But this is where they get to hand each other their azzes