i like the looks of the fords period. had a 7.3. 6.0 and the new 6.4. but i have to agree about the ride and looks. Of all the newer body styles, other than Ford, they are the uggliest things i have ever saw on the road. By far my 08 is pretty awesome. Got one of Spartan tuners and straight piped that sucker, because i can't stand to hear myself think.... LOL. But the ride is wonderful, and the take off is unexplainable, considering it is a diesel and can i say great fuel mileage now!!!!