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Detailed H&S vs. Spartan Review

Details about the truck:
  • 2012 F350 CCSB 4x4
  • 5" downpipe back
  • AFE Stage 2 Intake
  • Toyo Open Country AT2 35x12.50R20

I bought my truck Jan 19,2012 in NJ and deleted it Jan 20,2012 with 300 miles on the odometer from the trip back home. I went with a Spartan tuner based off my knowledge of how well Spartan and the 6.4's worked together.

Spartan Pros:
Large screen
Lots of tunes to choose from
200hp warhammer tune

Spartan Cons:
CEL (P2073) on warhammer tune
Harsh shifting
Can't turn off TPMS
Can't calibrate for different tire sizes

Spartan review:
It gave the truck good power although it wasn't very linear at times. While driving up hills the truck would often downshift and boost 30+psi to maintain speed. The warhammer tune saw the best mpg on my truck, but it also had the harshest shifting.

For towing I tow a 8.5x24 enclosed car trailer fully loaded around 9k and occasionally pull a bumper pull 30+' toy hauler weighing 11l roughly. At the recommendation of Spartan, I towed on the 120 tune as they told me that was the highest tune that was safe to tow on. I noticed much of the same when going up hills as I did when I was unloaded.

H&S Pros:
Shift on the fly tunes
Possibility for MCC and Custom tunes
Ability to calibrate TPMS & Tire size
Smooth Shifting
Limited Boost(safe for tubro)

H&S Cons:
Small screen
No 200hp tune(have to pay extra for MCC & Custom tune vs Spartan's included warhammer)

H&S Review:

Just installed the H&S Mini Maxx on my truck 10/8/13 and havent had a chance to drive it much today other than around town. I will be completing a 200 mile one way trip tomorrow that I have previously completed many times while I was Spartan Tuned. The trip includes town, country backroad, mountain roads, and highway driving This will serve as my real test drive for opinions.

In the past I averaged 17.5mpg on the same trip on the warhammer tune so I will report my feelings on the H&S as well as my fuel average after tomorrow night.

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H&S Mini Maxx with MCC, Spartan with war hammer(FOR SALE), 5" down pipe back exhaust, AFE Stg 2 Cold Air Intake, 6k 55w HIDS, Eagle Alloys 014 20x9 0 offset wheels, 35x12.50R20 Toyo Open Country AT2 Xtreme, UWS toolbox

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I will say that I got around 16.5 mpg deleted with h&s on 35s. Then I switched to the hot x tune from SPE and on a 300 mile trip I got about 18mpg

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Okay after my trip I averaged 18.3mpg on my 200 mile one way trip that I mentioned in my original post Thats a .8 Mpg gain over Spartans warhammer tune(17.5mpg)

I purchased the MCC unlock from SPE with their hot x tunes and wild trans tuning. I am making the same trip Tuesday and will report my findings.

Over the the next month or so I will be testing the tunes from CFD, SPE, RCD, Demonic Diesel, Gearhead tuning, H&S, and Spartan. I will report my findings including Mpg, egts, and seat of the pants dyno feel.

I plan on dynoing all the tunes on the same day(probably in December or possibly waiting until spring) after driving them all to get real world RWHP AND RWTQ numbers for my truck to show you guys as well.

I'm a student using this as a report for class so I figured I would take the time to benefit you guys along the way.

Stay tuned and post away with questions comments and feedback!

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Okay after my trip I averaged 18.3mpg on my 200 mile one way trip that I mentioned in my original post Thats a .8 Mpg gain over Spartans warhammer tune(17.5mpg)

I purchased the MCC unlock from SPE with their hot x tunes and wild trans tuning. I am making the same trip Tuesday and will report my findings.

Over the the next month or so I will be testing the tunes from CFD, SPE, RCD, Demonic Diesel, Gearhead tuning, H&S, and Spartan. I will report my findings including Mpg, egts, and seat of the pants dyno feel.

I plan on dynoing all the tunes on the same day(probably in December or possibly waiting until spring) after driving them all to get real world RWHP AND RWTQ numbers for my truck to show you guys as well.

I'm a student using this as a report for class so I figured I would take the time to benefit you guys along the way.

Stay tuned and post away with questions comments and feedback!

Andrew

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This sounds great, I'm all for you going all the way through with this project..... For your education of course. Haha I'll definitely be keeping track of this thread.

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Great info. Keep posting up those results.
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