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H&S VS. Spartan tuning!

Well i ordered the H&S race tuner, and after talking to a friend of mine he is saying go Spartan. I know the SPartan was a badass tuner on the 6.4's but from what i am reading i thought i did the right thing with going with the H&S. I'm not upset by no means but i haven't put everything on the truck yet and would like to know you guys opinions on the 2 programmers.

Are the 2 comparable as far as power?

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Fwiw spartan tunes ran really great. The warhammer tune is as hot as they get!
Imho they have less timing than h and s and may be easier on internals.
I prefer h and s because of the mcc tuning option.
it is very very easy to use.

I think you have the best product for the 6.7 With h and s as far as upgrading and flexabilty.
If all you want to do is tune the truck than maybe the spartan.
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I had a Spartan tuner and I have never had a H&S but I would never ever get another Spartan they may have all the power in the world, but if you are looking to ever get a different turbo and want tuning I bet you won't get it from them. There customer service is horrible. I maybe disgruntle because I had a problem and well basically got no help from them. So I traded the truck off left the Spartan on it and got a new 2013 thats stock for now.

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Spartan has great customer service! The dash daq has much better data monitoring options over the mini max. If you never plan to have more than just a programmer exhaust and egr delete, it's hands down spartan over H&S.


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I had a Spartan tuner and I have never had a H&S but I would never ever get another Spartan they may have all the power in the world, but if you are looking to ever get a different turbo and want tuning I bet you won't get it from them. There customer service is horrible. I maybe disgruntle because I had a problem and well basically got no help from them. So I traded the truck off left the Spartan on it and got a new 2013 thats stock for now.
Was that tha ac problem we discussed a few months ago?
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Yes it sure was. Fixed the ac problem by getting rid of the truck. Much happier now, and cooler. The tunes ran pretty good they just boost really fast and hard its almost like they spiked and then that was it. Sometimes it felt like there was no curve to them. The dash daq was really nice I agree with you on that. But with all the other options you can get with H&S and other companies writing tunes you can use with the H&S I think its a no brainer, but thats just me. To each his own

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I enjoy my Spartan. I had the hard shifting with the warhammer but I just sent an email to Mick and the next day I had a new transmission tune. Now it shifts smooth like butter unless you get on it, then it'll shift firm like its supposed to. Over all very happy with the product. But like stated before, the H&S has MCC tuning which allows for custom tuning.

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I think the main downside about the spartan for me is the fact you have to pay spartan to unlock the tuner in order for you to sell it. That is a crappy way of doing business in my mind......and one of the reason I will not buy a programmer from them.

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H&S is the way to go. Spartan has a fancy screen. That's it. H&S has the most versatility with tuning options right out of the box PLUS custom tuning options that are unparalleled by ANY Powerstroke tuning outfit.
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We have a spartan that a customer had to trade in for an H and S box when he had a turbo kit installed.

How much will Spartan charge us to unlock it so we can sell it?
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