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Old 05-06-2013, 09:53 PM
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Stock fuel vs. FASS/Air dog

I can't seem to find the stock gph flow of our stock fuel pumps. Does anyone happen to the stock flow rate?

The reason I am curious is because there are several aftermarket turbos coming to the market. But for the larger replacement turbos, one will need more fuel to fully utilize a larger turbo.

FASS makes a 200gph and 220gph fuel water seperator pump

And Air dog makes a 165gph fuel water seperator pump.

Advice and help is appreciated.
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A lift pump isnt going to help with adding fuel. The fuel limits are in the HPFP which is currently not draining the lift pump. It is just not holding FRP past a certain point. You can add an Airdog or fass, and it isnt going to change that
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Thanks this is the info I was looking for.

So what are the alternatives to get more fuel? Is the dual fueler basically the only option?

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Inudstrial Injection has modified CP4s for the 6.7. You can get a 33% increase for $1675 or a 55% increase for $1775
Shop | Category: 2011-2013 6.7L Ford Pumps CP4

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I'm wondering at what point do we need to put in new rods. I'm hoping I can get by with an aftermarket charger and the 33% cp4 from industrial. Anyone have an opinion on this??
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H&S ran thair 6.7 with 600rwhp on stock rods for month. Mods included a modified cp4 and a bigger turbo. Not sure on the specs of the cp4 and turbo though. Its all in the tuning on how much your rods can take.
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We have modified fuel regulators and added lift pumps.
The results are very little additional injector opening time or fuel pressure increase.

It is just the volumn of the cp4 that is the biggest factor.
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Inudstrial Injection has modified CP4s for the 6.7. You can get a 33% increase for $1675 or a 55% increase for $1775
Shop | Category: 2011-2013 6.7L Ford Pumps CP4

Bored at work and didn't look at the date of the thread lol opps
I hope these don't follow the same foot steps as their dragonfire pumps for the 6.4
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I hope these don't follow the same foot steps as their dragonfire pumps for the 6.4
What was wrong with their dragonfire pumps?
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There were a lot of failures and reliability issues. A lot of people had pumps that might last less than 100 miles and had a hard time getting II to do anything about it if at all. Blaming it on fuel contamination or other bs. But at the same time there has been success stories (Erik Clausen, Mal, Mike@mpd) but I think the amount of failures outweigh the success.
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