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Old 12-17-2012, 07:17 AM
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Do I need a tuner?

Right now I'm running an '04 6L and have an Edge Juice w/ attitude. I love the added power and the fact that it has guages. This week I'm upgrading to a 2013 F-350 and although it probably has much more stock power than my current 6L, I'm just wondering what the benefits are? Besides the added power that is. I pull a trailer a couple weekends a month so it's not always attached to something. My next question is what kind of tuner? I also keep reading about deletes, not real sure what that's about. And does a tuner void the warranty? Thanks for any advice.
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Yes a tuner will void your warranty, some dealerships will still do work on your truck if you have a tuner but if they have to plug into your ECU they will read that the truck has been reflashed and then the information is sent to Ford's database and your trucks warranty goes down the toilet. As for the "deletes" people are referring to the big canister in your exhaust system know has a DPF(diesel particulate filter). Removing this does void your warranty and can get you fined through federal law (very slim chances, depending on your area) but most people, such as myself, are still doing or are planning on doing it. If you do remove your DPF most people Ive talked to noticed about 2-3 mpg on the highway improvement about about 1 mpg in town improvement along with a lot more power when you step on the skinny peddle. Im not 100% sure on the whole being fined thing or the warranty with fords database but thats what Ive understood from reading other forms so someone can either correct me if Im wrong or exaggerate on it.
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Yes a tuner will void your warranty, some dealerships will still do work on your truck if you have a tuner but if they have to plug into your ECU they will read that the truck has been reflashed and then the information is sent to Ford's database and your trucks warranty goes down the toilet. As for the "deletes" people are referring to the big canister in your exhaust system know has a DPF(diesel particulate filter). Removing this does void your warranty and can get you fined through federal law (very slim chances, depending on your area) but most people, such as myself, are still doing or are planning on doing it. If you do remove your DPF most people Ive talked to noticed about 2-3 mpg on the highway improvement about about 1 mpg in town improvement along with a lot more power when you step on the skinny peddle. Im not 100% sure on the whole being fined thing or the warranty with fords database but thats what Ive understood from reading other forms so someone can either correct me if Im wrong or exaggerate on it.

Good answer... However, H&S or Spartan are the top competitors for tunes. With all the the problems that H&S has dealt with from the law, it makes it more difficult to get the Mini Maxx or any of their modules for the older vehicles. With the 13s just coming out and H&S's hands being out of the game, at the moment; I dont think there is much tuning for the 13s yet.
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Well that sucks.
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Right now I'm running an '04 6L and have an Edge Juice w/ attitude. I love the added power and the fact that it has guages. This week I'm upgrading to a 2013 F-350 and although it probably has much more stock power than my current 6L, I'm just wondering what the benefits are? Besides the added power that is. I pull a trailer a couple weekends a month so it's not always attached to something. My next question is what kind of tuner? I also keep reading about deletes, not real sure what that's about. And does a tuner void the warranty? Thanks for any advice.
You don't need a tuner. The 6.7 has 400 HP and 800 FT/LBS torque.

You can get a tuner if you want more power and better fuel ecconomy (not at the same time). But thats only if you don't need your warrenty.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:46 AM
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deleted here w/ H&S, lovin the extra 100hp, 350ftlbs and the extra 2-3mpg. Truck runs great and has no poor manors.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:07 AM
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So when H&S does make a tuner for my pickup, it will do the DPF delete, give me more power, and increase mileage?
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You don't need a tuner. The 6.7 has 400 HP and 800 FT/LBS torque.

You can get a tuner if you want more power and better fuel ecconomy (not at the same time). But thats only if you don't need your warrenty.
I agree with B.L.

This engine is not a 6.4L where the fuel mileage is in the gutter, and it is not a 6.4L where tremendous changes in power and fuel economy are available with a simple tuner.

I would leave it bone stock and keep your warranty intact because the gains will be minimal to say the least.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:16 AM
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I agree with B.L.

This engine is not a 6.4L where the fuel mileage is in the gutter, and it is not a 6.4L where tremendous changes in power and fuel economy are available with a simple tuner.

I would leave it bone stock and keep your warranty intact because the gains will be minimal to say the least.
Not arguing that the 6.7 isn't better than the 6.4 stock for stock but to say the gains will be minimal isn't looking at the whole picture.
Fuel mileage gains might be a little less (which is even arguable) but the power difference compared to stock is still a big step up and IMO it is so much better for the engine long term.
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