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post #1 of 18 Old 08-25-2011, 11:51 PM Thread Starter
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Monitoring EGT's?

I have a couple of questions for you guys about EGT's and where to drill.

I see that you have to install a pyro for H&S tuning, but they only give instructions for install if using egr delete kits and dpf off. How do I monitor EGT's if i want to run dpf on tunes?

I read there isn't a pre turbo pyro in a 6.7, so where is spartan reading the egt's or is there a reading?

Lastly has anyone installed a mechanical egt gauge? And where did you put the pyro?

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I've been wondering the same thing. Someone will help you soon. No mechanical gauges as far as I know, not really a need when the tuner display can do it.

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correct me if im wrong, but couldnt you the pyros on the dpf theres at least 2 of them in there, on the H&S display

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just had the switch the HS to FACTORY PYRO i think somewhere in the menu

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Picking up a pyrometer signal in the DPF would be useless. Could be as much as 1000°F cooler once it gets to the DPF (assuming the DPF is not burning off soot at the moment). The only place for a pyro to go is in front of the turbo.

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For the time being, I have an Edge Insight CS watching my temps just after the turbo (pre DOC and DPF) and just after the DPF. Interesting to watch the temps after the DPF during a regen.

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Picking up a pyrometer signal in the DPF would be useless. Could be as much as 1000°F cooler once it gets to the DPF (assuming the DPF is not burning off soot at the moment). The only place for a pyro to go is in front of the turbo.
That is what I was thinking. Is there room in front of the turbo for a pyro? I haven't really looked real close. Has anyone actually tapped for a pyro near the turbo?

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I asked my service advisor about this just after I purchased the truck.

He strongly advised against it while the truck was under warranty.....If any evidence of a pyro being installed was on a truck in for engine related repairs while under warranty, the tech was to call mother Ford regarding what additional testing to perform.

That's where he made mention of using a non-intrusive gauge package such as the Insight unit.

Granted, Ford does not have a pyro right in front of the turbo, but some info is better than none.

Of course, YMMV

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I asked my service advisor about this just after I purchased the truck.

He strongly advised against it while the truck was under warranty.....If any evidence of a pyro being installed was on a truck in for engine related repairs while under warranty, the tech was to call mother Ford regarding what additional testing to perform.

That's were he made mention of using a non-intrusive gauge package such as the Insight unit.

Granted, Ford does not have a pyro right in front of the turbo, but some info is better than none.

Of course, YMMV
Didn't really think about warrantee issues. Really, im not going to tune my truck till at least the 3 year/36000 mile warantee runs out. I just want a EGT gauge for towing, and turbo cooling shutdown reasons.
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Also, the Insight unit keeps me informed of the regen process. I wish Ford would give us some type of indicator or message of entire regen process taking place....not just letting us know it is starting it. I know you can tell by your mpg's falling below normal, but I like to have something more dedicated.

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