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Old 04-13-2011, 09:12 AM
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Newbie with EGR/DPF questions

After reading what seems like a billion threads on this I still have a few questions about EGR and DPF deleting. I have a brand new 6.7 with less than 1000 miles (so far). Its my first diesel so trying to learn as much as possible about it since I plan to grow old with this truck.
1. How soon can I do EGR delete or is this a non-issue??
2. EGR delete sounds like a nobrainer since it is actually better for the engine without it but does this affect any other systems ??
3. DPF also sounds like something to ditch but again what else is effected and will this effect long term engine life??

I am not asking about warranty implications as I got it..if I make changes the dealer can tell me to pack sand so my questions are technical only..

Im sure there are threads here which address these issues so links would be awesome also!! Thanks again!!
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:03 AM
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Like you said the egr is a good thig to get rid of in any case but especially when removing the DPF. With most of the DPf delete tuners out there they shut off the egr which is fine but the valve can where out over time just because you will still have pressure on it and it can begin to flutter over time. EGR delete takes care of that because it actually removes it. Deleting the DPF will save you money over time in two ways 1 the fuel economy aspect but 2 is that it wont be dumping fuel on to the piston heads to clean the dpf which causes the trucks motor to see temps in the 1100+ range. So to save you time money and potentially a motor getting rid of that crap is not a bad ides if you don't care about losing the factory warranty.

Hope this helps
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:45 AM
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Thanks for the help Nick..I will be sending you an email so I can price some equipment..thanks for the help!!
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:53 AM
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No Proble mlet me know if you have any other questions
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Like you said the egr is a good thig to get rid of in any case but especially when removing the DPF. With most of the DPf delete tuners out there they shut off the egr which is fine but the valve can where out over time just because you will still have pressure on it and it can begin to flutter over time. EGR delete takes care of that because it actually removes it. Deleting the DPF will save you money over time in two ways 1 the fuel economy aspect but 2 is that it wont be dumping fuel on to the piston heads to clean the dpf which causes the trucks motor to see temps in the 1100+ range. So to save you time money and potentially a motor getting rid of that crap is not a bad ides if you don't care about losing the factory warranty.

Hope this helps
Now that is the most logical non-whining reasoning to remove the emissions I've seen so far. The flip side is with the emissions removed, you're now a more damaging part of the air pollution problem.
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Now that is the most logical non-whining reasoning to remove the emissions I've seen so far. The flip side is with the emissions removed, you're now a more damaging part of the air pollution problem.
the whole point is diesel soot isnt nearly polluting like the epa makes it to be.. that being said you sound a little bit insulted at the idea.. so you going to make me retrofit my soot dumping 7.3 for ya?
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the whole point is diesel soot isnt nearly polluting like the epa makes it to be.. that being said you sound a little bit insulted at the idea.. so you going to make me retrofit my soot dumping 7.3 for ya?
I agree that soot seemingly isn't as big a problem as other pollutants. I don't feel insulted, it's just what the consequence is of the choice. The rationale stated has been the only non-petulant one I've read so far.

My '01 Dodge can dump a lot of soot, I'm not going to get it upgraded. It is still a bigger part of the problem than when it was stock and it is only lightly modified. Back when I got it, I didn't even consider it might do more than dump soot into the atmosphere. So I drive it about once a week now as a hay hauling ranch truck and drive my '11 F250 daily...which means I'm dumping less than 1/7 as much crap into the air as before. I'm not going to retrofit, but I know that truck and my quad and diesel tractor and brush cutter and tow behind mower and push mower are all dirty polluters...now I know better than risking being just another dirty little polluter with what is an amazingly clean powerful truck.

Alone, any decision I make is quite insignificant. But if I join the dark side - those who don't care and want to do things that blot out the sun with pollutants - or if I join the sunny side - those who want to obliterate man from the planet - my decision can have quite an impact. Personally, I'll continue to blot out the sun a little bit less and go into the back country on a methane spewing horse where most urbanites wouldn't be caught dead.

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Is there a complete "solution" on the market for EGR/DPF delete to include exhaust pipes?? When I say complete I mean tuner, EGR/DPF delete kit, and exhaust all manufactured by the same company?? I like Banks but they dont do anything with DPF/EGR etc and dont make a tuner for the 6.7 do they?? ALso any reccomendations are appreciated I see alot of folks are going with H&R ?!?!?
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Old 04-15-2011, 07:42 AM
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If you are looking for a complete kit H&S makes the tuner (mini maxx, xrt pro, and black max), the EGR Delete pt # 302201 and the delete pipes. On the delete pipes however H&S is just private labeling thru flo pro so you could save and just go with them or AFe also has delete pipes with the Urea block off bracket.
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H+S almost builds everything under one roof except on the exhaust, as mentioned it's FloPro and the quality is not to that of the other H+S products! We build the 6.4 and 6.7 Ford exhaust, DPF,CAT, and Urea delete pipes including full EGR delete kits and EGT probe mounting solutions. We just don't make tuners and give our customers Spartan, H+S, SCT, etc....
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