Does anyone know of, or come up with a fix for the the exhaust brake.
I know Ford says it "works", but comeing from an 08 Dodge, I really miss an actual brake that works. I was thinking maybe a manual switch could be added that would activate it.
Came down a small hill with about 9000 pounds behinde me the other day, and i really miss a working brake.
Don't we all. The more I try and use mine, the more pissed off I get. I don't want braking assist, I want a brake works without driver input. On or off would work for me.
I went back to my dealer and asked the same questions. He said that they hav ebeen getting some negative feed back about this. All they can say is that Ford has some work to do.
Yes. Ford says you do. i am interested to know if Ford went to the "active decent control" because something in the current turbo can't handle the exhaust brake. IF not, then it does seem rediculous that Ford couldnt figure out how to adapt proven technolagy that has worked for 70 years. The whole point of an exhaust brake on a towing rig ( which these are suppoesed to be) is to reduce wear and strain off of the standard breaking system. The active ecent control is just a joke. Another half asssed idea, we are forced to pay for and are apearently stuck with.
You should try using it before you say that it's a joke. It's designed to work under 20mph for descending very steep grades; not as a substitute for the exhaust brake.
We have an old military tank testing track where I work. It has a 25° slope and a 45° slope to drive down. I can set the hill descent control at the top at 2mph and it will hold that speed the whole way down by using the ABS. Not bad for a 9000lb truck ehh?
I believe its suppose to be used in off road situations only..ie hunting or what ever. You can't even get it on a dually...guess they are on road only vehicles
The point is these trucks are designed and sold as "towing" and "work" trucks. So why when the rest of the industry is using exhaust brakes, why not Ford. You can call it whatever you want, or try to explain how another aspect of the truck "sort of" does the same thing. As for me, I think Ford dropped the ball and Dodge and GM have a better system that works very well.
It's a balancing act... buy the dodge, take the money you save to perform non warrantied fuel related repairs... or pay for the gmc (again) and have the maxed out duro max...take your pic, overall the Ford is a better rig, with room for a few improvements.....keep an eye out for the improvements...:nod:
Well, I like the Ford so far, a few small issues, but i honestly really liked the Dodge I had as well. No problems at all. It rode rough, but never let me down. My Ford seems a bit more refined than my Dodge did.
That said, for a work/ towing truck, it did have a very functional exhaust brake, that I do miss. As i said earlier, i am curious if there is something in Fords turbo set up that can't take the strain?
Ditto to that here... I've never had a Dodge or Chevy with an exhaust brake but I've driven several semis and a full-size bus that had an exhaust brake, so I know how they're supposed to function, but my 2011 6.7 doesn't work that way at all.
Here is a formula that will calculate the amount of additional reverse HP an exhaust brake can generate. (it is impossible for any exhaust restriction type brake to generate more than this):Reverse HP = engine displacement (Liters) x rpm x back pressure (psi)/ 13000 So with 40 psi back pressure and 2000 rpm there is no way you are going to get more than 41 reversing HP out of any exhaust brake. Double the engine rpm (4000 rpm) and increase the back pressure to 60 psi and it starts to be significant though - 123 reversing HP -you absolutely need high rpm to generate HP with low torque (back pressure is creating the torque so low back pressure low torque)
-A compression brake such as used on the big trucks uses compression stroke pressure (500 psi) and can generate up to 600 reverse HP on a Cat C-15.
So my new DRW doesn't have any type of extra brake function in "tow haul"? Can someone please explain what this problem is before I hook onto my 43 ft enclosed trailer?(that has wore out trailer brakes). It pulled and stopped fine with my 08 SRW.
May be the best thing to do is buy a boat anchor and throw it out the windos. It will work better than what Ford offers.
My new truck is fast turning in to another POS. 6700km, transfer case shot, tranny issues. won't go into reverse. Guess Ford doesn't think that its necessary. Hmm.. wonder if i can have a Cummins installed under there??
Oh ya. Im more than a little pissed that my new truck is in the shop already. my bad though, i actually believed Ford had done simething about their quality
Sorry to hear of the issues with the truck, I would check on a lemon law application, or something along that line. Your situation appears extremely isolated, 1 in ?k.. which doesn't it easier to deal with..but is not indicative of widespread problems. I have a friend, just out of his dodge 3500 dually who could tell you an identical tale of woes.
It was all calculated. I could go 1000km on 120L of fuel. That works out to just under 20mpg ( I might have lost something in the conversion, I am not a math specialist).
This was at a hi way average of about 120km/h , (75 ish mph). If drove slightly slower, it gets better. I had an Edge juice with attitude in it and it made a huge difference. Where i was running it it had (estimated, by the numbers provided) about 395 hp and 800 torque. This was mid settings and seemed to work well for me.
The only place that my milage was not so good, was idle, and towing anything over 6000#. The truck did it fine, pulled 14000# through the mountains no problem, but did not like the milage. It was around 8-10 if i remember correct.
I am still hoping it gets better as the miles come with the new one. But one more important note. Every Ford I have had has left me at least once. My Dodge NEVER had an issue that left me walking. Never. I had teh DPF delete done, had something replaced in the front end at 60,000km under warrenty, and never had another problem.
maybe I was lucky, I have heard of others with some major problems, but mine was great. GOing in to my Dodge, coming out of a 6.0 Ford, i thought I had hit the lottery.
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