Changed my oil with delo 15-40 like usual and filter, and now I have a HORRIBLE lifter tap sounding noise coming from the motor. The oil level is correct, 13 quarts and verified. I just have never heard this sound after an oil change and it really has me worried.
I know there is a TSB for a fresh oil change on higher milage 6.7s that says this noise is normal for a little while after a oil change, but it sure has seemed to get a bit louder in the last 50 miles since the change. I just have never have heard this noise, ever after an oil change since I owned the truck. 151k miles.
Thanks for your input.
Edit Ive attached a video of my problem via youtube.
I've heard this with the heavier weight oils. I run the 5w40 delo synthetic. Im at 102k no rattles yet. I also pre-fill my oil filter. and I do a dry crank with my sct tuner before final crank and run.
Ive always run 15w40 with no issues...hmm. I didn't pre-fill my oil filter because I thought someone said it was bad to do so somewhere. I do know its getting oil however because I had to unscrew the filter after i put fresh oil in to cut the old filter's O-ring off the base before the new filter would seat. Mistakes made when rushing.
See OP for new video I took of the issue. The sound does vary up/down with throttle, usually cant hear it past 1400-1500 rpm
Thanks to all for confirming y'all have the noise too, but damn I can't believe I have never noticed it before till today, and there's a fair chance it hasn't happened till today. I'm around the truck a lot...I'm just at a loss. Would an oil overfill cause this sound?
My 2013 has made the noise after every oil change. I'm only at 21,000 miles. First few changes I used 5w-40 Delo LE full synthetic. My most recent oil change I switched to Motorcraft 10w-30, thinking since that's what Ford uses from the factory, maybe it would stop the ticking. If anything, it's worse. With the 5w-40, it only made the noise when truck was at or near peak operating temps, say 170* and up. Now with the 10w-30, it seems to only make the noise in the 130-170 range. Makes me think it's something related to oil viscosity. With both oils, the noise was very pronounced until about 2000 miles driven, then faded away to nothing by 4000 miles. I'm interested to see what MWE_060 mechanic friend says.
my truck made that noise right after an oil change pretty bad when I ran 10/30 motorcraft. It was recommended to me to change to 15/40 and it made it a lot better. I still hear it a little right after an oil change, but nearly like it was.
My buddy has a '14 platinum that makes some odd noises for about the first 1k Miles after an oil change. Man am I glad I bought the "other" 6.7, 6cyl version
I'm not, I've known plenty of cummins that have had numerous issues...melted 4th piston, snapped crankshafts, blown heads, mostly on stock trucks too...dont forget the never ending electrical issues...but each their own
I will say I like the dodge Laramie longhorn interiors, a lot. Still not a fan of their 6 speed auto although I think the asin is probably worlds better, never driven one with an asin though.
^^^That's what I tried to tell him when he bought his 6cyl version!!
Also I have yet to have this issue with any of the customer rigs we do 6.7 changes on. I also NEVER pre-oil the filter, buts its not because it is bad to do at all. Literally comes down to a time stand point.
I also have a tid bit of information for those who are curious as to why the noise is being made (so i think).
Per some other forum, and a TSB, the noise is caused by the timing gears that are just noisy and can be heard because the engine is so quiet. The noise is audible right after an oil change due to the lack of soot in the oil causing the sound to be dampened. Or at least that's what I got out of it.
I didn't know if my sound is the same as others, thus the post and video. Anyone else is welcome to chime in, I'm still not 100% on this noise.
Id be curious to see how many of these trucks with the Nosie will eventually experience the spun main bearing issue. Its seems to be getting more and more common now. Seeing how it cuts off oil flow and pressure I would be interested to see how many actually have the start to this issue.
You guys accept answers and issues like that? Lol. My Cummins makes the same noise, 5k mile oil, 5 mile oil. A $60k truck, I'm not taking some bs tsb issued for PR.
Just like other problems were breezed over and shrugged off by ford on the 6.0 and 6.4. Lol
Meanwhile ford pads their balance sheets with parts and service repairs.
Uhh, keep telling em the deficiencies are normal and put an aluminum body on it, change the grille or something, yah that'll work.
Aren't we on like the 3rd Gen of the 6.7? No no, the 11-12 had headgasket issues. The 13-14 are good.
No no, those issues were with the 13 and 14. The 15 units are solid.
Oh, no those issues were with yhe 15s surely we have it corrected on the 16s..
Yeah keep laughing til that goat starts making oil, eating injectors and high pressure pumps. Or the lovely slush box Dodge calls a transmission ****s the bed and costs you $7k. Ask me how I know all this.
Meanwhile the oil filter part#, as well as many others for the 6cyl slush box run from 89-current.
Sorry, I've had em all. There is no disputing Cummins in their engine dept.
Any heavy equipment or Marine industry or any other industry running a scorpion motor? Don't worry, I'll wait.
Thank you. I'll keep looking into it I want to know for sure the cause and possibly a remedy. If no one else has any input, guess I'll let y'all know what I find out.
I don't really care about cummins to be honest and being this is a powerstroke forum, let's focus on the topic at hand. I'm not up for a pissing match on who makes the best motors, because they all have problems these days and in my experience the 6.7 powerstroke has been extremely reliable. Every dodge I know of visits the shop on a routine basis. But their owners still rant and rave about them like its a reinvented wheel. I don't care for them but to each their own. We even have a LMM dmax that has had the piss beat out of it and it's still trucking along well over 200k with no downtime or problems. We've had several cummins 6.7s go down with motor problems as well as a 5.9 that was always in the shop for various issues (transmission, injector pump x2, injectors, crank, etc)
I always fill a new oil filter at least half way before install in cars or bikes and then i crank it a couple of times for a few seconds before starting til I see oil pressure come up on gauge.
I was reading a thread on this exact thing yesterday over on powerstrokearmy.com.
There were quite a few people that had tried different things such as different viscosity oils, different brands of oil. Some things help some trucks, some didn't. The one thing that seemed to help most is running Valvoline blue. The one with the Cummins logo on it.
Well I got 500 miles on the oil change today and the sound is still present...Not very reassuring. I hate this section of the fourm. So many death stories..not what I need!
I also notice more noise with Delo 400LE 15w-40 over Mobil Delvac 1300 Super 15w-40 but I still swap back and forth.. I change my oil @ 150 hours as appose to mileage because I spend a great deal of time idling and I don't give it a second thought.. I just keep driving her like I stole her and I think you should do the same.. If it's still bugging you then spend $40.00 or so for Mobil Delvac 15w-40 @ Walmart and $30.00 for a WIX # 57151 oil filter and see if it makes any difference.. One thing I do after an oil change with Delo is when I start it to check for leaks and after a few minutes I'll lay it against the Governor for a few seconds a couple of times and just not give it a second thought. Just-Sayin.
This issue comes up every so often. I'm surprised that there isn't a sticky in the 6.7 section covering this issue so that it isn't the same hunt over and over for people.
One thing that I learned when it came up about a year and a half ago was that the tick occurred many times in trucks that had the break-in oil changed out early. My Ford Technician confirmed this information when I asked him about it, but oddly, he failed to stop me from changing my break-in oil at 3,500 miles. He said that in his training, Ford recommends to leave this oil in the truck for a minimum of 5,000 miles and that there are some special additives in the break-in oil that need to be there for at least that long.
I have heard this part about leaving in the break-in oil for 5000+ miles. And to be honest, it makes sense. I did my first oil change at 2000 miles. Interestingly enough, a good friend of mine has the EXACT same truck as me, drives the same way, etc. He also did his first oil change early, around 2500 miles. His truck has not made a single tick, ever. Similar miles driven to me. He has only used Rotella T-6, so that may be my next oil to experiment with.
It goes against everything in me, but with the new truck I may try to change my oil when the minder tells me to. I say "may" because I don't know if I can go that long between changes.
There are guys on here that go by the minder and it doesn't seem to affect their trucks adversely. It would certainly save money.
I know you're right, however, it just doesn't feel right to let an engine go that long without being serviced. To maintain the warranty (without any question), I will take my new truck to the dealership for oil changes ect.
Man I had to fight him off on some other thread for the last time no one gives a damn bout your Cummins!!!! Lol
I respect your opinion but like I said somewhere else 6.7 Cummins has had more than it's fair share of issues and long block replacements too so toot yer horn on the Cummins site pls
LOL no different than your typical Dodge owner... you would think Jesus Christ himself built the Cummins the way they talk about it.. Don't get me wrong they are good engines just not all they are cracked up to be... And definitely agreed, the Cummins engines still have their fair share of issues
Welllllllll 1700 miles on this oil change and still ticking. I've gotten to the point of ignoring it. Maybe I'll do the next oil change with motorcraft oil again just to verify if it's the oil itself causing issues or not.
As far as I know the issue is 'normal' per ford TSB and no further conclusion has been reached, save for my ticking hasn't gone away in 1700 miles. My guess would have to be the brand and type of oil (conventional) has a factor in it. This truck has seen motorcraft 15w-40 synthetic blend it's whole life up until this oil change, where I stuck delo 15w-40 conventional and a napa oil filter on it. So I'm gonna go back to OEM in 4500 miles (by December) and see what happens.
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