Awesome info! Thanks for the help. I have also seen the HID's with Halos that they use for the turn light/running light. I guess that's a possibility to? What's confusing me I guess is the bulb vs projector lense. If I understand correctly, the projector lense is there to direct the light in a way that doesn't blind everyone and there grandma on the highway. So i would put a regular high output bulb in behind the lense to get my headlight and so forth Hence why you said all I need to do is place a orange LED light in the top and you have your turn signal looking like your main HID below it.
Sorry for the dumb new guy questions. Just trying to figure it all out before I go tearing apart my lights haha
Yes you can get the halos if you want but IMO they are too ricey, you can put them in front of the shroud or behind it which is better looking. Here's a short how too video http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w1166Dy...%3Dw1166Dy9SQU
Here's a halo infront(ricey/gay)
And behind. Sexier!
Here's how a standard reflector works.
Here's how a projector works. Note the shield blocks the light from projecting up into others eyes. In a bixenon projector there is a solenoid that flips that shield down giving full light output (high beam) for the signal you would just remove the shield entirely (2screws) and have full output for the signal
I know everyone seems to say that the stock lights suck but mine actually seem to be very bright when they are coupled with my fog lights which is how I always have them. I know I wanna do the PTM on them but the actual bulbs and what they put out I'm happy with....
Because they do suck. If you've never had HQ projectors and HID setup then your idea of good lighting is putting a brighter bulb in or adding more lights eg. Your fogs, . And you shouldn't drive with your fog lights on all the time, especially the OEM fogs that come on these trucks. They are more for vanity than actual fog or worse yet daily driving. If you had a HQ set of low beam headlights you wouldn't even notice if your fogs were on or off.
The vast majority of “fog lights” we see on vehicles today are useless affectations, secondary light sources that accomplish nothing other than creating dangerous glare for those in oncoming vehicles.
There is a secondary problem when they are used by tall vehicles like SUVs and pickups – the height of the light source. Ironically, this makes them even more useless in fog.
Fog lights were originally intended for use in heavy fog, snow, rain and other situations where visibility is restricted. A proper fog light is designed to have an extremely sharp cutoff at the top to prevent light from reflecting off the water droplets or snow that is causing the problem.
We have all experienced what happens when light reflects off in this manner when you put your high beams on while driving through heavy rain, snow or fog – the resulting reflection is blinding, causing us to switch back to low beams, which have a cutoff at the top to prevent the light going into oncoming vehicles. For this reason, proper fog lights have a sharp cutoff at the top of the light and are designed to be mounted very low on the vehicle and project a wide light under the rain, fog, snow, etc.
The light from a proper fog light will not appear more than 5 to 10 cm off the surface of the road. Once designers started using “fog” lights as jewellery on the front of a vehicle, and drivers decided to use them to show off their purchase, the problem began.
Now we have a raft of vehicles driving around with these useless lights aglow day and night, in bright sunshine, clear, dark nights and making visibility worse in fog or other situations of restricted vision.
Granted, some high-end European vehicles have proper fog lights, but since they are properly designed to restrict their light path to a low level, they are not a problem for oncoming motorists. The rest, the vast majority, serve no purpose other than to display the driver doesn’t know what he or she is doing.
This is compounded when the “fog” lights are used on a tall vehicle. The lights are already too far off the ground to be useful as a fog light and, in most cases, do not have a cutoff of any nature since they are mere jewellery. So, here we have light sources that shine directly into the windshield, rear window or mirrors of other vehicles.
This is probably what you and other are getting for light output with the PnP hid kits. It shows how bad it really is
These are pictures of a proper HQ mini H1 projector. For everyone who says that their PnP HIDs are so great, I guarantee they don't perform 1/5 as good as these.
Give this a read, it shows how crappy some peoples Hid in reflectors are, then compare them to proper hid projectors.the hid fail gallery