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Switching Tuners?

I am about to take a mini maxx off of a 6.4 and install the DPF-R tuner as a replacement as I am going to sell the truck but will be using the MM on a 6.7.

My questions is will I have any issues if returning to stock then installing the dpf-r? Obviously I am not going to put the DPF back on. Should I return to stock through MM, start the truck, shut off the truck, then install the DPF-R?

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I don't think you should start the truck with stock tuning and dpf deleted. Asking for trouble there. Disclaimer, I've never done this.

I would recommend hooking your batteries up to a charger while you're doing the tuning. Just to prevent any mishaps.

I have a dpf-r on my dads 6.4. No issues with the install.

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I don't think you should start the truck with stock tuning and dpf deleted. Asking for trouble there. Disclaimer, I've never done this.

I would recommend hooking your batteries up to a charger while you're doing the tuning. Just to prevent any mishaps.

I have a dpf-r on my dads 6.4. No issues with the install.
We also have a DPF-R on a 6.4 farm truck and we had no issues from install. My only concern is that I will be returning to stock, and the truck will be in stock form without the DPF and they key will be cycled I foresee the possibility of CELs or something and I didn't know if that might interfere with the DPF-R doing it's thing.

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Cycling the key won't do anything. When I switch from my IDP tunes to gearhead tunes I have to return to stock. I don't start the truck when it's in stock, but I have to cycle the key to on to start the tuning with my live wore. It should be the same going from MM to dpf-r

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Cycling the key won't do anything. When I switch from my IDP tunes to gearhead tunes I have to return to stock. I don't start the truck when it's in stock, but I have to cycle the key to on to start the tuning with my live wore. It should be the same going from MM to dpf-r
I did the same thing when switching from a LW to the MM so the OP should be fine. If you do start it and throw a CEL, you can always clear it with the MM (but you would have to reload the MM so you would be starting all over).

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585, Why did you change from the Live Wire to the Mini Max? Was it worth the change?
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Cycling the key won't do anything. When I switch from my IDP tunes to gearhead tunes I have to return to stock. I don't start the truck when it's in stock, but I have to cycle the key to on to start the tuning with my live wore. It should be the same going from MM to dpf-r
Why do you return to stock between tunes?

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Why do you return to stock between tunes?
Its one way or the other, if i try to go from IDP Preloaded tunes to KEM or Gearhead, the livewire tells me it doesn't recognize my truck. so i have to return to stock, then tune with KEM or Gearhead tunes. its been a while since i switched tunes, but i cant remember if it was pre loaded to custom tunes, or custom tunes to pre loaded. one of those ways, i have to go back to stock to get it to tune.

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585, Why did you change from the Live Wire to the Mini Max? Was it worth the change?
There were many reasons but the biggest was the fact that I had several issues with it. Although I can't complain about the customer service from SCT, I was getting tired of calling them. The monitor sucks but I could have just got a CTS or DD for monitoring. The load times were long and it was a PIA to have to go stock to switch tunes. The final straw that broke the camel's back was it died on me after I had returned it to stock (I was deleted) and I had to send the unit back for repair and that cost me a good paying hauling job. With the H&S, I have never contacted their customer service in over 2 years of having it. To me, it was worth it to avoid the headaches. If the LW is working for your truck, I doubt (especially in post EPA era for H&S), you would find it worth it. IMO as long as you can run Matt's (or possibly Erics - I have never used his tunes), then the tuner should be good.

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