Anyone received their Spartan delete pipe?

[BigIslandBoy]

Originally Posted by pyro2nite

Still checking the oil level?

It' still overfull but I can't tell if it is still rising. Waiting on the Blackstone kit to test it. The I'll change the oil and put 15 qts back in and mark the stick to see if it rises.

[buckslayr]

I got my pipe today, put it on, went on super easy[course I only had 975 mi. on it.]It looks to me like you have a 3.5 in the DOC and a 3.5 out the DPF.I would think the only reason for the DOC and DFP to be bigger is to trap more soot.really can't see how it gives you any more air flow to have a tapered pipe from the DOC to the muffler when it is squeezed down to 3.5 be fore the muffler anyway.I think I'll have to go with Spartan boys tests on this one.JMO. Enjoy it boys,I went to town 20 mi and my ave. went from 13.5 to 18,5.still learning how to drive it,Its pretty sweet

[Funkster]

How do I get a hold of Sean to get a pipe? I'm wanting to go with Spartan's tuner and MBRP cool duals, but I like the look of his free flowing pipe that does away with both the DPF and DOC. Thanks for the help guys.

-Funkster-

[Steeler Fan]

I'm still pipeless and waiting. I can get one made tomorrow but I already paid Spartan for his and I go on a long trip Friday...decisions, decisions.

[jamoffroad]

just got the SCT stuff and installed today. the dpf pipe is fine but they need to get the gasket mad and send some bolts the kit from ford is 93.00 and they did not have in stock. so used the old gasket . test drive tommarow for milage test. cant wait ....

[George C]

Originally Posted by buckslayr

I got my pipe today, put it on, went on super easy[course I only had 975 mi. on it.]It looks to me like you have a 3.5 in the DOC and a 3.5 out the DPF.I would think the only reason for the DOC and DFP to be bigger is to trap more soot.really can't see how it gives you any more air flow to have a tapered pipe from the DOC to the muffler when it is squeezed down to 3.5 be fore the muffler anyway.I think I'll have to go with Spartan boys tests on this on this one

The diesel aftermarket performance business was built from the foundation of smoothing out flow. That's what it's all about. Mandrel bent exhaust pipes, intercooler hoses/tubes, mandrel bent down pipes and everything else to smooth out the flow to deal with the extreme EGTs a tuner produces. $1,000s and $1,000s of dollars in preperation are spent annually on smooth induction/exhaust hardware that doesn't make one single ponie, but allows those big 'tuner" ponies to run hard by substantially decreasing excessive engine killing EGTs.
That's how you build safe performance systems. Mandrel bent pipes are especially important in the exhaust area because rough corners or flattened down pipes disrupt air flow and cause major hot spots that cause EGT gains, which is enemy No. 1 in the tuner business..
Now, here comes "you know who" proudly endorsing these new dyno proven DPF pipes that have a 3 1/2" flat wall for hot gasses to directly slam into, directly out of a 1,200+ degree producing DOC I might add. . Now, it's OK because this tuner company says so, and because their dyno says so. Everybody and everything the diesel performance parts business was built on over the last 30 years is now tossed out the window because they say so?
I can't speak for everybody, but I get a little tweaked when my intelligence is insulted like that. Maybe they do believe what they say, and that's frightening....
I can understand that design, I truly can. I does the job, it's cheap and quick to make, it's light and easily packaged to ship and there is a lot profit left over, all good business, but don't endorse it as something dyno tested and leave out the other half of the story.
SCT sells the same junk.
P.T. Barnum's words still ring true everyday..


This picture demonstrates the amount of blocked flow your DOC back system will deal with. The 7 bolt flange is the actual size of the DOC exit pipe size.



I bet Gale Banks is peeing his pants laughing, and shaking his head wondering who could come up with a positive twist on this..

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Last edited by George C : 06-26-2008 at 06:42 AM.

[TSEMP]

George C,

It is clear as I have read your posts that you are very smart with the diesel trucks. I appreciate you being able to call a spade a spade. There are people in here that come to the forum to learn and its nice to read when someone can cut to the facts! My 2 cents.....

[powerstrokefuston]

Just an update guys, I am still working on getting some delete pipes made up. First batch will be dpf delete only, second batch will be complete dpf/doc delete pipes. The great thing is they will made from 304 stainless. I have found someone to cut my flanges out for me, and let me say, the waterjet is cool, but I am going to search out another source for getting these things cut by laser, which I personally feel will be better. I am also going to only make the outlets 4" or 5". The reason for that is most people will be running an aftermarket system behind the dpf anyway. If someone decides to remain stock behind the dpf, I will be able to provide an adapter coupling to go back down to stock size.

[bman33]

Originally Posted by George C

The diesel aftermarket performance business was built from the foundation of smoothing out flow. That's what it's all about. Mandrel bent exhaust pipes, intercooler hoses/tubes, mandrel bent down pipes and everything else to smooth out the flow to deal with the extreme EGTs a tuner produces. $1,000s and $1,000s of dollars in preperation are spent annually on smooth induction/exhaust hardware that doesn't make one single ponie, but allows those big 'tuner" ponies to run hard by substantially decreasing excessive engine killing EGTs.
That's how you build safe performance systems. Mandrel bent pipes are especially important in the exhaust area because rough corners or flattened down pipes disrupt air flow and cause major hot spots that cause EGT gains, which is enemy No. 1 in the tuner business..
Now, here comes "you know who" proudly endorsing these new dyno proven DPF pipes that have a 3 1/2" flat wall for hot gasses to directly slam into, directly out of a 1,200+ degree producing DOC I might add. . Now, it's OK because this tuner company says so, and because their dyno says so. Everybody and everything the diesel performance parts business was built on over the last 30 years is now tossed out the window because they say so?
I can't speak for everybody, but I get a little tweaked when my intelligence is insulted like that. Maybe they do believe what they say, and that's frightening....
I can understand that design, I truly can. I does the job, it's cheap and quick to make, it's light and easily packaged to ship and there is a lot profit left over, all good business, but don't endorse it as something dyno tested and leave out the other half of the story.
SCT sells the same junk.
P.T. Barnum's words still ring true everyday..


This picture demonstrates the amount of blocked flow your DOC back system will deal with. The 7 bolt flange is the actual size of the DOC exit pipe size.



I bet Gale Banks is peeing his pants laughing, and shaking his head wondering who could come up with a positive twist on this..

I need to see inside the DOC to validate what you are saying. But I can't because i'm still waiting for my fuggin delete pipe...

[rdc]

Originally Posted by George C

The diesel aftermarket performance business was built from the foundation of smoothing out flow. That's what it's all about. Mandrel bent exhaust pipes, intercooler hoses/tubes, mandrel bent down pipes and everything else to smooth out the flow to deal with the extreme EGTs a tuner produces. $1,000s and $1,000s of dollars in preperation are spent annually on smooth induction/exhaust hardware that doesn't make one single ponie, but allows those big 'tuner" ponies to run hard by substantially decreasing excessive engine killing EGTs.
That's how you build safe performance systems. Mandrel bent pipes are especially important in the exhaust area because rough corners or flattened down pipes disrupt air flow and cause major hot spots that cause EGT gains, which is enemy No. 1 in the tuner business..
Now, here comes "you know who" proudly endorsing these new dyno proven DPF pipes that have a 3 1/2" flat wall for hot gasses to directly slam into, directly out of a 1,200+ degree producing DOC I might add. . Now, it's OK because this tuner company says so, and because their dyno says so. Everybody and everything the diesel performance parts business was built on over the last 30 years is now tossed out the window because they say so?
I can't speak for everybody, but I get a little tweaked when my intelligence is insulted like that. Maybe they do believe what they say, and that's frightening....
I can understand that design, I truly can. I does the job, it's cheap and quick to make, it's light and easily packaged to ship and there is a lot profit left over, all good business, but don't endorse it as something dyno tested and leave out the other half of the story.
SCT sells the same junk.
P.T. Barnum's words still ring true everyday..


This picture demonstrates the amount of blocked flow your DOC back system will deal with. The 7 bolt flange is the actual size of the DOC exit pipe size.



I bet Gale Banks is peeing his pants laughing, and shaking his head wondering who could come up with a positive twist on this..

Great post! You know what they say about a picture being worth a
thousand words!