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Old 06-26-2013, 09:48 AM
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Just can't decide whether or not to delete egr

Hey guys and gals,

The title pretty much sums things up, I can't really decide if I should delete the egr with one of those 200 dollar kits or not.

My truck is a 2009 f350. I have a dpf delete pipe on order, spartan tuning, s&b intake, and will be running the stock exhaust system with the dpf delete pipe.

What I use my truck for is daily driving, I live 20 miles from the city, and most of the driving I do is empty on the highway/gravel, bit of running around the city, then highway/gravel on the way home.

I also plan to do a fair bit of towing our camper and boat around this year. Our camper is a 28 foot mallard, and our boat is a 19.5 foot four winns, and Im guessing the combined weight is maybe 11k.

My goals arent really for the truck to make huge power or anything like that. I hesitantly bought this truck to replace my supercab 2003 7.3 liter truck, and I would just like reliability and economy to shine above power. I realize this truck most likely wont get the same kind of economy my old one did, and Im realistic about it, so that really brings reliability to the top of my goals list.

Long winded post, so with the mods I have and am planning, should I buy one of those 200 dollar ish kits (with the block off plates) and delete my egr? Or since I plan on towing a fair amount, quite often in the summer, should I leave the egr on and utilize the wastegate benefits?

Ive read and read and READ egr threads, and just cant seem to decide, so I thought i would post a thread of my own. Thanks.
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:03 AM
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I am interested as well mainly in the latter part, when doing an EGR delete does that bring up a need for a wastegate?
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:31 AM
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I have been on the fence for a long while. I have warranty also but i just want to keep my engine as healthy as possible but deleting the egr will keep the crap out of the intake but the added drive pressure scares me.
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If your tuner shuts down the EGR then I don't see how it's really any different in performance from actually removing the physical pieces unless it opens up during WOT runs.

If the tuner keeps it closed all the time then it will be safer to have everything removed since there's no chance of it rupturing and leaking back into the block.
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Old 06-27-2013, 06:31 AM
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If your tuner shuts down the EGR then I don't see how it's really any different in performance from actually removing the physical pieces unless it opens up during WOT runs.
That is sorta what i was thinking as well, but I dont know these egr systems and whats best for them at all.

If i read ten threads, 5 will say the delete isnt needed with similar mods to mine, 5 will say that a guy should do it.

I was hoping to get some more solid info about this. On FTE, the guys there seem pretty confident that if your not having egr problems, then leave it alone and dont bother deleting it, pretty much so you still have a wastegate.

Ive read a few threads where Jeff from Spartan mentioned deleting the egr would be ok, and unless ya race or really work the truck hard, you dont need to worry about the turbo (if you watch your guages) and you dont really need a wastegate.

Anyone else much more smarter then I wish to chime in?
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:11 AM
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I'd like to know too.

My mods are DPF and DOC delete and Spartan phalanx running 275. I have the EGR kit sitting on the shelf in my garage and wonder if I should put it on. What's supposed to be the benefits and downsides?



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That is sorta what i was thinking as well, but I dont know these egr systems and whats best for them at all.

If i read ten threads, 5 will say the delete isnt needed with similar mods to mine, 5 will say that a guy should do it.

I was hoping to get some more solid info about this. On FTE, the guys there seem pretty confident that if your not having egr problems, then leave it alone and dont bother deleting it, pretty much so you still have a wastegate.

Ive read a few threads where Jeff from Spartan mentioned deleting the egr would be ok, and unless ya race or really work the truck hard, you dont need to worry about the turbo (if you watch your guages) and you dont really need a wastegate.

Anyone else much more smarter then I wish to chime in?
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:27 PM
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ive monitored drive pressure lots with egr deleted and i do not see anything that scares me at all or has me worried. I wish I deleted mine way before warranty expired. I use to change my oil and it would be black right away now with the egr gone my oil stays golden for over 4000km not to mention the piece of mind. Im sure a wastegate wouldn't hurt but think of all the people like me who have deleted the egr with no wastegate and have logged a lot of miles and have had no issues what so ever. Thos eare justmy thoughts im no expert just speaking from my expirience and what ive learnt on this site
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:13 PM
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Srjd, do you tow fairly heavy at all? Do you find you have to watch your boost fairly closely? Lastly if you dont mind me asking, what egr delete kit did you go with?
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:51 AM
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If reliability is what you are after….deleted the EGR coolers and valve. It has nothing to do with power; it is just for the peace of mind that it will not fail. Also, you DO NOT need a waste gate after deleting either. That only becomes a concern with major power / boost increases. Running the 42-44 PSI that you will get out of a tune is nothing to worry about.
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:11 AM
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How long does it take? I'm not fast. I'm not that slow either. Can I do it without lifting up the cab pretty easy? I have a kit I got from XDP.

It cost $160 and has these components:
-Stainless Steel Exhaust Block-off Plate
-Aluminum Intake Elbow Block-off Plate
-(2) Coolant Block-off Plugs
-(4) M8 x 40-1.25 Exhaust Manifold Shoulder Bolts
-(2) 5/16"x2 1/4"Bolts
-(2) 5/16"Flange Nuts
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