with so many options now, which programmer?

[bigcountry61]

Now that there are more than a few programmers released for our 6.4's, which one would you go with and why?

i personally am trying to figure which one I want to buy, I also want a 250hp tune and since I only have 500 miles on my truck I can wait a few more weeks


Just want to discuss the pro's and cons of the different tuneres available

[BigIslandBoy]

Good question...seems like like everyone is producing about the same hp numbers and have 250hp in the works. Guess we have to wait until these units actually get into some people's hands and see what they have to say about it. I sure you've read some reports on the KEM/SPARTAN and BADP. Haven't read anything from someone who has the SCT from INNOVATIVE, other than it is has been released. Seems like those who do have the dpf delete tunes really like it. It will probaby just be a matter of personal preference unless some is willing to buy them all and do a side by side comparison for us

I would imagine there is not much difference in the delete pipes. I think BADP has down pipe about ready. I'm sure there will be alot more info coming in about a week I'm still waiting for the call...so I can give this dpf delete thing a whirl and save some fuel.

[smotrs]

Julian might be up to the task, he saved all that money when he didn't have to buy a new DPF and CAT. Of course his girl might decide to run him over with the truck if he did.

[TwinTurboStroker]

Originally Posted by smotrs

Julian might be up to the task, he saved all that money when he didn't have to buy a new DPF and CAT. Of course his girl might decide to run him over with the truck if he did.

Yeah at first she didn't want to do it, but towards the end she was begging me to buy it , I'm glad I didn't..............well guys there are a couple different ways to look at it, are you looking for all out performance? Do you want awesome sounding exhaust, better mileage, and the ability to roll the coal? Is a TOTALLY voided warranty not an issue to you? Then I would go KEM/Spartan all the way. I've heard good things on the BADP, but as far as I know only one guy has it and he only had it on there for a week or so. SCT just released their DPF delete tuning and I'm going to try it out and see how I like it. However, I will always run the KEM tuner. I have over 20k miles on it. Mike saved my azz, he was the first with everything and anyone who has talked to him knows he know his stuff. In my mind KEM/Spartan are king. I'm still wary on the 250 tune from ANYONE considering everyone is still "working" on it. I think it should a dyno/drag tune only. I know alot of guys on here are all gun ho and want to biggest tune you can put on it and on top of that, they want to do it with less than 1000 miles on the truck. Guys its your truck, your money and I'm not saying what you need to do, but remember they are going to be your problems in the end. I would wait and put at least a couple thousand miles on the truck stock to make sure there aren't going to be any serious issues later on down the road and start breaking in the motor they way it was meant to be broken in. Then I would start with the 125-150 tune. If the truck likes it and you like it then awesome, you can always send the programmer back and get the bigger, better tunes later , thats why they offer free updates. Then once you get tired of that tune then you get the 200 and so on. The key here is baby steps guys, this truck is a TOTALLY different animal then any other Powerstroke, Cummins, D-max before it, not even Ford has everything worked out yet. One thing to remember is that once you start making over 500HP you need to be ready to start bringing the rest of the truck up to par....I'm talking about tranny, axles, input and output shafts. Hell I've already broken an axle and I'm seriously looking into trannies, we are talking about at least $5000!!!! I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you are wanting to play, be willing to pay . The 200 tune is puttin down dyno proven 500HP, 250 will be at least 550, probably closer to 600HP, how long do you think the stock stuff will handle that Also just touching on the programmers that DO NOT delete the DPF. I've found it quite funny and that guys get on here and say that they willing to re-program the truck, but don't want to mess with the DPF because of warranty issues. Guys, DPF delete tune or not, your re-programming the truck and there for voiding your warranty from Ford bottom line, so if your going to do it then you might as well make it worth it.....this is all just my

[silversurfer08]

well said julian. listen to him, he knows his stuff

[bigcountry61]

Great post Julian! I will follow that advice for sure

[bigcountry61]

Julian, which one of the KEM/Spartan tunes are you seeing best fuel mileage?

[TwinTurboStroker]

Originally Posted by bigcountry61

Julian, which one of the KEM/Spartan tunes are you seeing best fuel mileage?

Well I saw the best mileage with the 125-50HP, I did the 200HP when I put the 6 35" tires on and my mileage has been the same.....so I'd assume if the truck was stock the 200HP tune, Matt also said at 80MPH on the highway was getting 20+MPG

[nordberg]

hey julian, if a guy uses his head when driving and leave his truck on the 125-150 or say even the 200 do think this alone would cause long term damage? the reason i ask is i want to leave my truck on the setting that i benefit the most, but dont want issues to arrise either

[bigcountry61]

Good info... Thanks Julian