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Tuner, buy new or save & buy used?

Hello, so I'm doing some extensive research on a complete delete & tune. A few mini maxx's & spartan's for sale on CL. What would be the advantage of "new" vs "used"? Only problem about used I think would be stolen or some junk...

I may have did a step backwards beings I added my CAI (afe magnum force stage ll si pro) first. My check engine light is on, I have read on here some CAI cause this in some cases? Took it to my buddies, scanned code & he said code referred to DPF. Reset code & said if it lights again see dealer. Well it's on again, so would the CAI change throw a code in reference to the DPF ? I know I need to just order everything & get to work! Any thoughts are appreciated, have a good wknd all! Thanks, Jayson.

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H&S MiniMax/Mcc & Gearhead tunes w/Blendmount
aFe Mach Force XP 4" Exhaust w/downpipe
Custom-Diesel Deleted, H&s wastegate w/Intake Elbow & CAC pipe, MPD Ccv/Oil fill mod, Alradco intercooler,
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For the tuner question, if you buy used just make sure the previous owner has returned his vehicle to stock before you purchase it. I think Spartan also has a 100 re liscence fee even if the tuner is returned to stock so just keep that in mind. Otherwise buying used could save you a fair bit of cash over buying new.

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Yes the CAI will cause a check engine light, don't worry about it, once you tune the truck it will go away.

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Right on, thanks.
So if a used tuner ( mini maxx or black maxx) wasn't turned back to stock what would happen? Uploading of equipment wouldn't be recognized by current system or locked?

08 F250 6.4L
CcSb Lariat 3.73
5200lbs springs, rear blocks removed, Nitto Grapplers
aFe Mag Force II Si pro 5R w/modded box
H&S MiniMax/Mcc & Gearhead tunes w/Blendmount
aFe Mach Force XP 4" Exhaust w/downpipe
Custom-Diesel Deleted, H&s wastegate w/Intake Elbow & CAC pipe, MPD Ccv/Oil fill mod, Alradco intercooler,
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Right on, thanks.
So if a used tuner ( mini maxx or black maxx) wasn't turned back to stock what would happen? Uploading of equipment wouldn't be recognized by current system or locked?
Your new to you tuner would be an expensive paperweight if it's locked to the previous owner's truck who didn't return it to stock. H&S doesn't offer an unlock code unless you can adequately prove that you bought it. You'd need the original paperwork from the previous owner, not just a bill of sale. Add to that their cost of unlocking it and you've probably already paid the price for a new tuner.

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It happened to me, you have to pay H&S $350 dollars to register it to your VIN but because of the new EPA regulations they have to turn it into a Street Tuner. From there you then need to spend more money if you want it to be able to work with DPF and EGR deletes. Please just buy new, I'm learning my lesson as we speak.

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It happened to me, you have to pay H&S $350 dollars to register it to your VIN but because of the new EPA regulations they have to turn it into a Street Tuner. From there you then need to spend more money if you want it to be able to work with DPF and EGR deletes. Please just buy new, I'm learning my lesson as we speak.
I just came across your thread just after I submitted mine. I'm definitely thinking of new now! Thanks again!

08 F250 6.4L
CcSb Lariat 3.73
5200lbs springs, rear blocks removed, Nitto Grapplers
aFe Mag Force II Si pro 5R w/modded box
H&S MiniMax/Mcc & Gearhead tunes w/Blendmount
aFe Mach Force XP 4" Exhaust w/downpipe
Custom-Diesel Deleted, H&s wastegate w/Intake Elbow & CAC pipe, MPD Ccv/Oil fill mod, Alradco intercooler,
SD Coolant filtration/ CAT ELC...
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