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post #1 of 62 Old 01-23-2013, 08:03 AM Thread Starter
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Guess we can say goodbye to H&S tuned DPF/EGR delete.

I am sure many of you already know about this but I felt like a discussion was necessary, and honestly wanna know what some of you guys think about it. For those of you reading that don't know.. H&S performance will no longer make tuners with the option to DPF/EGR delete unless your vehicle is approved by the EPA. Honestly i think its a dark day for diesel engines out there and personally i feel a little upset about once again the government stepping on our toes .

Ya I know we gotta make sacrifices to curb global warning. Even if it means spend more at the pump and pay more taxes to hire EPA people to make sure everyone else follows suit. WTF ever!

Anyways with that being sad I encourage those that haven't bought a tuner to do so asap because when the DPF ones are gone they are gone for good. I have even been contemplating buying a second one for myself just in case. I am not sure if H&S will even support them anymore or replace it if it gets damaged in some way.. I'm thinkin not. Just had to vent about it

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I'm not happy about it, and I don't even own a truck with a DPF (yet)

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See this:
EPA Settles with EDGE Over Tuners Allowing DPF Delete

What will most likely happen is anyone who develops Tunes / Tuners will be required to only develop tunes that do not disable / encourage deletes of emissions equipment. Likely, some companies, like Edge, will pay a fine if they want to stay in business.


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The problem is that the tuners went for maximum power rather then maximum efficiency. If they had gone for maximum efficiency, vehicles tuned wouldn't be producing noticeable amounts of soot out the tail pipes. They could have easily provided tunes designed to eliminate as much smoke as possible while still making power. Instead we have vehicles making 300+ additional HP smoking up the highways drawing attention to the diesel community.

Don't believe me, do a search for "best smoke picture" and look at the thread that shows up.

Sucks it had to come to this.

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smotrs is 100% correct! This why I drive @ on my 210 tune it really doesn't smoke at all & gives good milage/power! I've tried some of my hire tunes & didn't like the smoke, but i sure do see a lot of people driving @ that do!

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Not so long ago "rice burners" or whatever you want to call em grabbed all of the attention. Now the diesel community has become a target. 500+ horsepower tunes, 4-6" exhaust and stacks coming out of beds spewing locomotive sized plums have pissed off many a people. I don't run tunes that have lots of smoke but I was behind an old diesel pickup with big stacks pushing black smoke all in front of my view. It was cool for 5 seconds but then it became irritating!


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Besides all of the black smoke I don't understand how people aren't shredding transmissions and breaking more drive-train components adding all of that power and torque.


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I talked to a H&S tech helping me with a update issue and he stated that though they will no longer be producing the dpf/egr delete software loaded in the programmers , they are still updating and continuing to improve the tunes and will continue to support those of us with the dpf/egr delete programmers.... He also stated the new programmers are the same as the current ones the difference is we can no longer access the dpf/egr tunes... So our programmers will still be repairable in the future....
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I talked to a H&S tech helping me with a update issue and he stated that though they will no longer be producing the dpf/egr delete software loaded in the programmers , they are still updating and continuing to improve the tunes and will continue to support those of us with the dpf/egr delete programmers.... He also stated the new programmers are the same as the current ones the difference is we can no longer access the dpf/egr tunes... So our programmers will still be repairable in the future....
The situation sucks but that's good that they will still help those with their tuners.


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I have the mini max with the dpf delete. I recently updated my firmware and went to the newest version . I still have HD300 tunes but the named changed to performance but what I have noticed is that the black smoke is a lot less and it seems to get better fuel economy

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