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Old 11-29-2012, 08:28 PM
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Pure Performance Track Bar problems are getting really old

Have any of you experienced problems with the SH!T bushing on the frame end of the Pure Performance track bar? I have had this thing for 20,000 miles on my truck and will be replacing the bushing for the 3rd time. Got on the interstate today and had the death wobble that comes when the bushing wears out. Came home tonight and had my buddy come over and just as I have figured, the bushing is worn out again.

I am going to order one tomorrow, but the last time I called them it was a bunch of excuses. They told me that in wet environments like "Florida" they see premature wear. I think that's BS.

As well, the last time I did the bushing, I went ahead and replaced the ball joint on the other end of the track bar. It didn't seem to be worn very much, but for sake of making sure that it was right, I did it.

Hopefully someone has some help. I am about to throw this damn thing in the trash can and take of the leveling kit so I can go back to the stock parts. I am really feeling like this thing is a crap design and in the two last phone calls to them, I didn't get any support for as much money as this thing cost.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:56 PM
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I have the icon track bar with the poly bushing (different I know) but considering its a poly bushing I only torqued it to 285 ft lbs with the logic of tightening it to 410 ft lbs would wear the bushing out quicker because there's so much pinching force on the bushing. Maybe I should of asked before, how much are you torquing it at the frame?
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I'd also like to add that I do use my truck mildly off road as well as towing and nearly two years after the install I havnt had an issue.
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I got my leveling kit from newton lifts and it came with track bar spacers to keep the axle centered. Maybe if all else fails look into that. I'm sure he would just sell you the spacers and you could put the stock components back in with the spacers. Just an idea, good luck!
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yours looks like this correct? any chance the lube u use is deteriorating the bushing?

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yours looks like this correct? any chance the lube u use is deteriorating the bushing?

That is a very good point. Some lubes are not compatible with some bushings.
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You must Tq the track bar to factory specs..400+ ftlbs. Older Pure bushings used WD40 thats all. I've never had a issue with Pure's or Icons properly tq'd..

Wobble...vast majority its from the lack of Castor these trucks have stock..add a lift its worce.
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Have any of you experienced problems with the SH!T bushing on the frame end of the Pure Performance track bar? I have had this thing for 20,000 miles on my truck and will be replacing the bushing for the 3rd time. Got on the interstate today and had the death wobble that comes when the bushing wears out. Came home tonight and had my buddy come over and just as I have figured, the bushing is worn out again.

I am going to order one tomorrow, but the last time I called them it was a bunch of excuses. They told me that in wet environments like "Florida" they see premature wear. I think that's BS.

As well, the last time I did the bushing, I went ahead and replaced the ball joint on the other end of the track bar. It didn't seem to be worn very much, but for sake of making sure that it was right, I did it.

Hopefully someone has some help. I am about to throw this damn thing in the trash can and take of the leveling kit so I can go back to the stock parts. I am really feeling like this thing is a crap design and in the two last phone calls to them, I didn't get any support for as much money as this thing cost.
Sir

I beleive the tech you spoke with today actually diagnosed your issue correctly. As one of the tech's here I have never heard anyone say anything about moisture and if they did, they are no longer here because I spoke to the other 2 techs and they all said they never said anything like that.

However, your issue as I understand it is caused by two things. First, you added spacers which is making you light on caster with no caster correction, which we recommended ball joint cams for the uppers so you can ge the caster back. Low caster is just like a shopping cart wheel and will promote a death wobble condition. Second, you stated the offset in the bar is a little "shy" for your application which is due to the spacer lift and no axle position correction. When putting a spacer in the vehicle and not correcting the axle position, the axle slides back a little bit, thus creating that issue.

Like we mentioned, one of our techs is looking into a heim joint for your application to take any and all extra misalignment caused by your axle positioning. However, this will not be the "be all" end all solution as you still have to correct for the lighter caster setting.

It has nothing to do with the design of the part, just the compilation of components you have in the vehicle. We are sorry if you feel that is "Sh!t" in your terms. I will be sure to let the tech know who is working on a real solution for you.

Pure Performance
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How much lift?
Caster correction?
Ball Joint condition?

I have run that exact SH!T bushing on my last 2 Jeeps and on my current 2008 F350. The 07 Jeep had that bushing front and rear as does the new 2012 Jeep. I put close to 50k on the Rock Krawler (Pure's sister comany) lift on the last truck with zero issues and it saw mild off roading. I have that exact track bar on my 08 F350 for almost 2 years also with zero issues. I did torque that bolt to the required 408 lbs and re-torqued it at 500 miles like you are supposed to. I'm a bit lazy as far as greasing things so I have never put a pump of grease in it yet.
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George

They are different bushings. The F250 bushing is the same as the Ram HD track bar pushing. Ultra tight PTMEG Material.

JP
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