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Tuner Tranny Shifts

I have been flipping back and forth over when tuner to go with (H&S Mini Maxx or Spartan) for months now. All I really want to do is tune my truck so I can delete my DPF and CAT. I am not worried about fuel mileage (I already get 18-19mpg on the hiway stock) and I am not worried about crazy HP gains as I am happy with how the truck performs stock. I have read that some of the stock tunes (no hp gains) or low tunes (50-80hp) can cause the tranny to shift harder and not shift like stock even if your not running any hp gains. I was just wondering what you guys out there have found shifts better with the lower to no hp tunes between the H&S and the Spartan. I dont want to tune my truck then have it shift hard. I was reading about how H&S has tranny tunes that you apply but some people were saying they still arent shifting right. Anyways, look forward to your guys input.

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I have been flipping back and forth over when tuner to go with (H&S Mini Maxx or Spartan) for months now. All I really want to do is tune my truck so I can delete my DPF and CAT. I am not worried about fuel mileage (I already get 18-19mpg on the hiway stock) and I am not worried about crazy HP gains as I am happy with how the truck performs stock. I have read that some of the stock tunes (no hp gains) or low tunes (50-80hp) can cause the tranny to shift harder and not shift like stock even if your not running any hp gains. I was just wondering what you guys out there have found shifts better with the lower to no hp tunes between the H&S and the Spartan. I dont want to tune my truck then have it shift hard. I was reading about how H&S has tranny tunes that you apply but some people were saying they still arent shifting right. Anyways, look forward to your guys input.
I have an h&s and found that after a few hundred km's, maybe not even that many, that it shifts just as good or even better than stock on any power setting.

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All of Spartans 210 and under tunes shift about the same as stock.

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Ya i also use the h&s and i dont feel that my truck shifts hard.

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I've run both. The Spartan 210 is just slightly harder than stock. I would call it firmer not necessarily harder. But the H&S shifts like stock on all power levels. After a few miles the tranny learns it and it will shift great. If I were you I would run a 200+ tune not a small tune. 200 is still considered mild on these trucks and it keeps you out of the danger zone for tranny issues etc. You will see the best MPG gains on the bigger tunes. I would recommend the H&S for what you are wanting to do.

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Like stated above, our 210 and lower tunes shift only slightly firmer than stock. It's barely noticeable.

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Thanks for the info guys. Im still confused as all hell when I tell people I wanna Tune/Delete and run a stock or low hp tune and everyone yells at me and tells me to run 200 hp to 1000 hp. Im still learning why its so frowned upon to spend all the money and only run 60hp tune. I feel like I'm the only one out there that is considering this. Is there anyone else out there that runs no or a very low hp tune.

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Just buy a damn tuner and run one of the big tunes just for a min! That will answer your question. I guarantee you won't stop smiling all day! It's almost as good as getting laid... almost.

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I plan to do the same as you, running the low tune anytime I have a load, but for the sake of fuel economy, I will be running the high HP tune when empty as I hear that gains the best results. I think the reason most people get their panties in a twist about running a low/no hp tune is that you will not be maximizing your benefits for the money spent. In the end, if you want to run a no HP tune for the sake of reliability, go for it!
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I tuned my truck for the same reasons you stated. I went H&S XRT Pro and shifts are great. I run "no power" setting and still get 17 mpg average and 20 on interstate at 70 mph. Hope this helps and happy motoring.
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