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post #1 of 19 Old 04-15-2012, 03:14 PM Thread Starter
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Spartan 310 and mini max hot tune hp comparison

So I am set on the mini max or the spartan. Does anyone know the dyno numbers for both or 1/4 mile times. Thanks


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Well, if you have the same mods done to the truck then the spartan 310 tune will make more power and be faster in the 1/4.


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Well, if you have the same mods done to the truck then the spartan 310 tune will make more power and be faster in the 1/4.
Im not trying to stir things up, or even argue for that matter.... but do you have proof of this, or have any way to back this statement up? unless your using the same exact dyno for both trucks, then the comparison is void. There was an article on this exact issue in this months Diesel Power Magazine. Quarter mile trap speed is the best indicator of HP, because the time itself can be different due to bad launch, wheel spin, crappy driver, ect. Trap speed is key. With that being said, i am curious. I love my H&S, but guys with Spartan will usually say the same about their unit.

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The quickest time I have seen out of a tuner, intake, and exhaust Spartan tuned truck was a 12.69. That was a CC/SB F-250. I believe the run was made around sea level. Dyno numbers seem to depend on the dyno itself. You may see 530-550 out of the 310 tune and you may see 575-590 out of the 310 tune. Track times/trap speed put it in the 580-600 range. I can't speak for H&S times and dyno numbers.

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I have ran both and just seat of the pants feel the 310 feels a lot quicker than the 300 Hot damn tune. Even the KEM 310 tune does not feel as strong as the Spartan 310.


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OOOooo....need to get Spartan and H&S and all the tuners guys to meet up and see who truly makes the BEST tune......
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Well it definitely sounds like Spartan 310 is the hot ticket. I'll definitely keep that in mind. I dont think I'll be converting over or anything, but it's good to know. Sounds like H&S needs to step it up another notch lol! It seems that H&S and Spartan go back and forth with the "latest and greatest". I'm not sure how much more power can be squeezed out of these motors with stock components (other than basic bolt ons)?!

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A lot more then 600.

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You may see 530-550 out of the 310 tune and you may see 575-590 out of the 310 tune. Track times/trap speed put it in the 580-600 range.
What exactly do the tuner hp numbers refer to for the 6.4? Like a 310 tune...
I am assuming flywheel hp...
365hp(stock)+310hp(tuner)=675hp(gross)x80%(efficie ncy)=540(rwhp)???

Were the 6.0 tuner hp numbers calculated the same way as I dont recall anything this high...

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A lot more then 600.
The motor itself can handle more than 600 horsepower, but not the head gaskets/stock head bolts. The stock transmissions needs to be upgraded before 600 HP too.

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What exactly do the tuner hp numbers refer to for the 6.4? Like a 310 tune...
I am assuming flywheel hp...
365hp(stock)+310hp(tuner)=675hp(gross)x80%(efficie ncy)=540(rwhp)???

Were the 6.0 tuner hp numbers calculated the same way as I dont recall anything this high...
Flywheel horsepower is 350 on these trucks. We do not rate (no tuner does) our tunes as flywheel horsepower gains.

Using our 310 tune as an example, we rate the tunes as the highest gain at any given RPM. So lets say (hypothetically) that the truck makes 310 horsepower more than stock at 2800 RPM. That is where we get the number from. There is a gain of roughly 310 horsepower over stock with that tune.

Typically a bone stock 6.4L will make around 270-290. Peak horsepower with the 310 tune, an intake, and exhaust seems to be about 280-310 more than peak horsepower bone stock. This depends on the truck and dyno though. Every truck is different and every dyno is different.

Hopefully this makes sense.

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