Anti Wrap/ Ladder bars

[Kodiak 6.4]

I have been researching ladder bars for a weeks or so and I think I am going to do something like this:
Anti wrap bar

I haven't seen anything like this on this website and I want to get some opinions on it. I questioned the wisdom of using a shackle at the forward end of the bars because it seemed counter-intuitive, but after some more reading, it makes sense. I am a good welder so the fabrication seems pretty straight forward.

Let me know what you guys think

[blackcloud2k]

That is a pretty good idea. Looks like it should work.

[lusklxix]

There's a lot more/better ideas that you can find @ pirate4x4.com. That setup is from a jeep I believe and don't think those heim joints would last very long on our trucks.

[Kodiak 6.4]

I'm leaning toward a johnny joint in the front on a shackle and bushings in the rear. I think I may try to emulate the PMF bars.

Does anybody know the geometry involved? It seems simple, but I usually mess things up when it seems simple.

[ars5147]

Originally Posted by lusklxix

I believe and don't think those heim joints would last very long on our trucks.

Using three point hitch top link ends will be more than strong enough. I say this b/c of the abuse they go through behind the tractor. I have put many of hrs on the same old top link. Something like the PMF mount on the axle and a solid mount on the frame like a spring hanger should be good. Won't have much flex for offroading, but I assume the truck will see mainly on road. Just cut off the ends and threads in the tube, weld in a longer piece of pipe/tubing and you should be good in terms of the bar, but mounts will be the tricky part.

[Kodiak 6.4]

I'm dizzy after reading this thread: Traction Bars: A closer look - PowerStrokeNation : Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum

I got some good info from it. I am definitely going with a three point design like the PMFs. I will have a bushing mounted above and below the rear axle and a johnny joint mounted to a shackle up front. I think I will mount the forward end on the frame right about where the bed and cab meet, maybe a few inches forward of that.