propane injection

[Cowboysfan]

Guys and Gals,
Did the DPF delete with the Edge Racing Evolution tuner, 5" exhaust and cold air intake and the truck finally runs like it should. But have been considering adding propane injection or maybe even dry nitrous injection. Has anybody done this or knows someone who has done this and what manufacturer they used. Any help would be appreciated.

[Beene]

I'd also like to know.

[chvyrkr]

Forget all about propane.

Propane and diesels is bad, bad, bad.

Nitrous isn't a bad idea, but it should be used in conjunction with wastegates to prevent blown turbo's.

NOS or NEX.

[Beene]

Bad, bad, bad? It's been used for years as pretty bad *** power adder for diesels so do you mean it's bad for the 6.4 specifically? Bully dog and other companies sell complete kits minus the tank but I don't know I anyone has dyno'd the improvements on a 6.4. If you can even run it. Diesel mags do right ups all the time in milage tests using propane as well

[Cowboysfan]

Beene,
I'm on the same thought as you that I always thought propane was a good thing to put on a diesel engine. Are we mistaken in this? What are the pros and cons ( if any ) to this apploication.

[chvyrkr]

It's been blowing up engines for years.

It's bad for any diesel motor, at least as a power adder.

It spikes cylinder pressures, increases EGT's, messes with timing, etc...

In your 6.4's, you'll blow head gaskets, crack valve seats and heads, crack and melt pistons, etc.

Propane is a horrible idea, and nobody that know's anything about adding power to a diesel will tell you to use propane to do it. If they do, run away.

As far as the diesel mag's go... I haven't seen anything ground breaking in a magazine in years.

[Beene]

Ok so I only have a few minutes before work so I couldn't find too much but lots of "reputable" companies sell the propane injection kits. Innovative diesel was the first to show up on my list and they carry the bully dog one.

As for magazines I've only listed ones I could quickly verify but I assure you there are more sinces I only had 2 minutes to look.
Business Fleet Magazine Nov/Dec 2010
Engine Professional Jan-Mar 2010
Four Wheeler Feb 2009
Motorhome Magazine Unsure of month but google article
Mopar Muscle April 2006

Also one on Compressd Natural Gas if you're interested from Diesel power Feb 2009

Wouldn't say that there is anything "ground breaking" but it's not really a new technology but there have been some advancements in controllers for the systems.

[shu873]

Are you looking for power or mileage gains? If it's economy or mileage, a small shot wouldn't be too bad, but be very cautious and monitor things. If you're thinking propane for power, the diesel community gave that up years ago due to the reasons Tom has already mentioned. Only people I know who consider using propane aren't in to the performance side of diesel. They mostly drive older trucks too. I wouldn't even consider it on a newer truck.

[Beene]

That make sense then why you don't see it anymore and why it's more common in large applications. I've never run it in anything so I don't know my *** from a hole in the ground, just trying to find out what the reasoning was

[chvyrkr]

It melts stuff down and blows stuff up.

Do a search on it.