Inexpensive programmers

[powertower]

I own a 2008 6.4l and recently was looking on ebay and came across a few inexpensive programmers one called mindblower, and the other called powermax. I have no experience with programmers and am not sure what to look for. They are simply plug in programmer and advertised hp and tq gains. I am just wondering if these really do anything, and if they are safe. I have my doubts and will likely go a different route, but for the prices they advertised if anyone has used one of these or has any info on them it would be greatly appreciated.

[powerstrokedub]

You get what you pay for is all im gonna say. A 20$ programmer from ebay could turn into an 18,000 crate engine.

[powertower]

Yeah I an thinking that but it never hurts to ask you never know.

[j21black]

I would be concerned putting something like that on my truck, I would stick with Spartan, H&S, or SCT.

[powertower]

of the three which would you guys recommend as best band for the buck? I still have the DPF and don't want to risk removing it because the authorities are not particularly fond of me as it is, and they would likely hassle me on it.

[powerstrokedub]

In my honest opinion, if you are not going to delete the dpf I wouldnt bother with it. specially if you are still under warranty.

But, if you are not under warranty and want a little bump in power, the best bang for the buck will be the sct or the H&S XRT. I love my H&S product and would recommend them to anyone.

[jdffafarmer]

A buddy of mine bought one of those ebay "tuners" for his hemi and it turned out to be a little black box with 2 wires on it, you just scotch blocked them in and it was supposed to have all kinds of added power and fuel economy...didn't do a thing...I have also heard lots of good things about H&S but have not had the funds to upgrade trucks to try

[j21black]

I agree with powerstrokedub. If you are not going to delete, I wouldn't do it. You will plug your DPF at some point if you stop the REGEN process and don't do a delete.

I love my Spartan, but the reviews on the H&S are getting better and better.

[powertower]

Really eh Im no longer under warranty but if it's going to cause problems, or not make a big difference then I likely won't bother spending big bucks on one. I really appreciate the input, I'm new to diesel and I love it but I'm realizing how careful you have to be whenever you mess with these engines. Thanks again.

[pyro2nite]

Originally Posted by powertower

Really eh Im no longer under warranty but if it's going to cause problems, or not make a big difference then I likely won't bother spending big bucks on one. I really appreciate the input, I'm new to diesel and I love it but I'm realizing how careful you have to be whenever you mess with these engines. Thanks again.

If you already have over 100,000 miles, no warranty, then I would delete the DOC/DPF. Doing so will stop the fuel in the crankcase and add to the health of your engine.

I have a H&S Mini with a 75HP tune from KEM. Increased the fuel mileage and stopped the fuel dilution in the crankcase.