6.4 swap info

['strokeThis_'07]

So I'm thinking about swapping a diesel into a muscle car, like a Duramax in a 57 Chevy, 69 Camaro or a Chevelle, OR a 6.4 in a 67-70 (preferably 69/70) Mustang fastback or maybe even a 70/71 Torino.

With that, I'm looking for info on the 6.4, mainly physical size (dimensions), and the big one, what runs it?

Hows the 6.4 setup? Is the ECM/TCM integrated, and mounted on the engine? Is the rest of the truck integrated with the engine/trans somehow, like through a Can-Bus system?

Is it possible to take the engine and trans, use the factory wiring harness along with the ECM/TCM, and run power to the ECM, run some grounds, and fuel and it'll run?

I'd use a programmer (Spartan) for power and the obvious DPF/EGR delete, so maybe anything else thats not used from the truck can be dealt with that way...?

I thought I asked something along these lines before, but now I can't find it. I know a Duramax would be relatively easy, not sure if the 6.4 would be much worse or not?

Thanks

[rollin coal 08]

that would be awesomee man seeing the power these motors can make so easily it wouldamazing to toss one in a small light frame

[O2ShootTheJ]

good luck finding something big enough to fit it all in.

[rollin coal 08]

yea thats gunna be youre one problem if u put it in a mustang then youd have to do some serious customization

[charlesrf600]

I have been thinking of ^.0 in an old galaxy. I bet a 6.4 would fit to huge engine bays. I am sure there is a system to help run it. Another thought would be take the entire harness from the truck and rewire the car with it then you don have any worries and modern wiring. Its probably the backword way about doing it but its a thought.

Sorry if this inst any help. Let us know if you find out how to do it.

[jbetzelb]

Can you put enough suspension under a mustang or torino to hold a 6.4 and still have a car that is drivable?

['strokeThis_'07]

I have no idea how big these are, or how much they weigh. Figure they put a Boss 429 in them, probably room for the 6.4. If memory serves right, they cut the shock towers and put a flat piece of metal there to gain clearance. Its been over 10 years since I was deep into Mustangs.

Its been awhile since I've looked under the hood of a 6.4, and I've never pulled out a measuring tape on one. But from memory, seeing one sitting on the shop floor where I used to work, I *think* they aren't terribly larger than a big block.

Suspension wise could be taken care of. 4 link the rear to get some semblance of traction when 1200+ft-lbs goes to the ground. Front...custom spring rate. Wonder if theres a coilover conversion like there is for my beloved Mopars?

Not a bad thought on the whole truck harness. It'd have to be hacked to hell I'm sure, so I'd rather just go with the engine/trans harness if possible.