Water/Meth Injection - Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum

6.4L Performance Parts Discussion What has or has not worked for you?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 21 Old 09-05-2010, 08:48 PM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
11SuperDutyKR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 306
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Water/Meth Injection

Haven't found all the information I wanted on this mod searching the boards...my questions are mainly: is it worth it as far as lowering EGT's and adding power? How is the mpg gain? is it safe? Thanks.

-Adam
2008 Dark Shadow Grey F250 CC SB
Mini Maxx(KEM tuned), S&B, 4'' DP, 5" Straight Pipe, CS IC Pipe, Readylift w/ 35x12.50 toyos on black 20's, OUO traction bars & blocks, Westin Black Bull guard w/ KCs, UWS Toolbox

2011 F250 KR CC FX4 3.55 rear, AFE Intake SOLD
11SuperDutyKR is offline  
post #2 of 21 Old 09-05-2010, 09:02 PM
shhhhh, can you hear it?

 
08pwrstrokr6.4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: wichita,ks
Posts: 2,236
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
well safe depends on your mixture and other mods.mpg gain i cant imagine would be better than 3 but i dont know.but if you are looking to lower your egt's and get some power at the same time it is definitely worth it.best place to post these questions would be under the vendors forums under devils own

Patrick
TAPS Historian


08 6.4L ECSB
S&B intake,H&S Black Maxx,5" Pipe,Trac. Bars
13.77@100.63

OIF 07-08 16 months OIF 10/OND 10-11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Diesel Tech Mag
All you need is a little knowledge,the right tools, and a buddy's truck to practice on.
08pwrstrokr6.4 is offline  
post #3 of 21 Old 09-05-2010, 09:04 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
powerhoghp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hedgesville, WV
Posts: 1,256
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
It really depends on your setup, but in most cases the power is noticeable. The mileage gain depends on how much meth you're injecting and EGTs depend on how much water. Marketed systems like Snow Performance's kits are perfectly safe for any diesel, the DIY route is obviously your own risk.
powerhoghp is offline  
post #4 of 21 Old 09-05-2010, 09:39 PM
Compression Ignition Addict


 
08stroker250's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Georgia
Posts: 8,819
Thanks: 5
Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I have heard claims of valve stem wear caused by methanol. I would say a meth to water mix of 20/80 or 25/75 would be about how you would want it. I wouldn't use too much methanol. River City Diesel is the company who saw the valve stem wear. There are posts on here about it I believe. They are really old ones though.

Jeff Dodd
spartan_jeff12@yahoo.com

2012 Ford F-250 Lariat CC/SB

Mods - Spartan tuned via laptop, 4" AFE stainless exhaust system, 2.5" PMF BMC leveling spacers, 3" PMF lift blocks, Fox Racing 2.0 shocks, Recon smoked mirror & cab lights
08stroker250 is offline  
post #5 of 21 Old 09-06-2010, 07:46 AM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
O2ShootTheJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 742
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
I have meth and wish I never bought it. I don't tow that much so I never use it. I was gonna flip it on when I was dynoing to get a comparison and see how much power was added but the pump was seized up. go figure...

08 F250 CC SB - too much to list

Big Thanks to:
Smokin' Guns Peformance and Accessories
Throttle Junkie Performance Parts
O2ShootTheJ is offline  
post #6 of 21 Old 09-06-2010, 09:07 AM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
11SuperDutyKR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 306
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
thanks for the advice O2...I doubt I'll do it. I'm thinking more along the nitrous route, small shot.

-Adam
2008 Dark Shadow Grey F250 CC SB
Mini Maxx(KEM tuned), S&B, 4'' DP, 5" Straight Pipe, CS IC Pipe, Readylift w/ 35x12.50 toyos on black 20's, OUO traction bars & blocks, Westin Black Bull guard w/ KCs, UWS Toolbox

2011 F250 KR CC FX4 3.55 rear, AFE Intake SOLD
11SuperDutyKR is offline  
post #7 of 21 Old 09-06-2010, 04:37 PM
Compression Ignition Addict
 
O2ShootTheJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 742
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
that will be better for power if that's what you are looking for. apparently a little safer too.

08 F250 CC SB - too much to list

Big Thanks to:
Smokin' Guns Peformance and Accessories
Throttle Junkie Performance Parts
O2ShootTheJ is offline  
post #8 of 21 Old 09-06-2010, 08:31 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: university of alabama
Posts: 76
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
ok i was in youre postion too so i called aaron at rudys he was like this " listen it will help out cooling youre egts and yes it will add power, but what do u want do u want to gain real power go nitrous and save up for water meth kit and just run water too cool it down" .. so i went and got myself a cold fusion nitrous kit.. same kit aaron runs i have not installed it yet i will this week. no question what kinda of mods do u have in youre truck
rollin coal 08 is offline  
post #9 of 21 Old 09-06-2010, 08:32 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: university of alabama
Posts: 76
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
oh and why did u sell the 2011 ?? just wonderin
rollin coal 08 is offline  
post #10 of 21 Old 09-07-2010, 12:52 PM Thread Starter
Compression Ignition Addict
 
11SuperDutyKR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 306
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Yeah, it looks like I'll be going the small jet nitrous kit. Sold it because I was layed off when payments starting rolling in...bad timing. I'm getting married in 3 months, but I came out even for what I payed for it. I'm excited to have the 6.4L though...from what I read, they're beats.

-Adam
2008 Dark Shadow Grey F250 CC SB
Mini Maxx(KEM tuned), S&B, 4'' DP, 5" Straight Pipe, CS IC Pipe, Readylift w/ 35x12.50 toyos on black 20's, OUO traction bars & blocks, Westin Black Bull guard w/ KCs, UWS Toolbox

2011 F250 KR CC FX4 3.55 rear, AFE Intake SOLD
11SuperDutyKR is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome