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Old 07-12-2010, 10:09 AM
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Towing with Spartan 250 issues and questions

So I have been towing with my spartan on 250. Mileage and drivability has been great. I used to run on the standard 210 but the mileage is much better on the 250. I have been getting about 13mpg.

Also, even with the 250 tune the egt, water and oil tems stay much cooler than the stock no dpf tune.

The other day I was towing and had some issues!!
1)my lower intercooler boot blew off and I lost the clamp. I tried to reattach with some zap straps but they would not hold. I ended up using the hose clamp off my sewer hose on the travel trailer and limped it to town.

2)while operating on the improv hose clamp, I decided to run stock no dpf to try and reduce the strain on the system. While pulling a hill my engine water temp spiked to 228deg but my oil never exceeded 210. The fan cut in and then the water temp dropped back to 215 quickly.(this occured over a 1 min period). I have noticed that my oil is typically 8-12deg hotter than my water when towing. I did not boil over or puke and everything seems to be running ok now. It was almost as if the thermostat stuck closed for a second but the fan kicking on contradicts that. Typically my water temp never exceeds 212.

- I thought i read somehere your oil and water temp should be within 6 deg of each other.

- is there a kit or some way to fix the intercooler boots from coming off?

Tranny temp stayed about 175 deg and increased to a max of 185 deg on the hills.
Outside temp was about 80 deg.

I have to say I am amazed there was no diff in tranny temp between the 250 tune or stock no dpf. Also EGT's are easily managable as well.

Thanks Spartan.

Spartan is amazing tuning.
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Just read my message... Sorry to Ramble!!!
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More than 8 degrees typically isn't good, but my guess is that your EGR coolers might have flash boiled causing the ECT to get really high. The fact that you didn't puke is a good sign.

As for the boots, I recommend DieselSite boots. I have them and they are great quality in my opinion.
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:42 AM
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Is it typically the lower boot that blows off or do the others come off as well?
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Typically the lower boot.
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I blew the upper off several times & I'm stock!
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Old 07-12-2010, 12:49 PM
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DieselSite has a full kit to replace all 4 boots. It's like $160 or so. I bought it for my truck and haven't looked back.
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Thanks for the info! So far the hair spray trick is hold up but I would rather have it fixed right! Sorry for the hi jack!!!
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:05 PM
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when you put your new boots on. Take the time to clean the IC tubes. A good degreaser and elbow grease will make all the difference in the world to prevent the boots from coming off in the future.
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On my last trip i tightened up the clamps a bit prior to leaving. I ran that 2200 mile round rip at an average of 25-35psi and none even moved at bit. But I do like the idea of the aftermarket hoses.
BTW towing 10k with 90 plus ambient temps my oil and coolant never went above the 190's.
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