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post #1 of 16 Old 01-12-2010, 06:27 AM Thread Starter
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Well I changed from the 310 to the 275 (Both TCM versions) to do some towing. I noticed the coolant was about 1/4" bleow the lowest mark on the tank so I added enough water to get it 1/4" above the cold fill line. Went out and did the TCM relearn and when I finished it puked bad.

What coolant temps is everyone else seeing when they puke? Mine was 198 and ambient was 28.

Do i just need to run it with less in the resivoir since it never puked before I filled it?

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195 to 198.

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Maybe she puked because you added coolant, but IMHO it is never a good idea to tow with the race tunes, they are not for that. And my understanding was that if your HG's are bad, the coolant will quickly rise in temp, as in well above 200*F from the additional heat being injected into the cooling system

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195 to 198.

Do you have the new strategy flash Spartan?
No still waiting for a fix for the TCM files, they won't load on my truck

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Maybe she puked because you added coolant, but IMHO it is never a good idea to tow with the race tunes, they are not for that. And my understanding was that if your HG's are bad, the coolant will quickly rise in temp, as in well above 200*F from the additional heat being injected into the cooling system
Mine usually stays around 150, but I was beating it pretty hard during the TCM relearn. Normally I pull heavy loads with the 210, now I'm just pulling the bass boat back and forth to the lake

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if you have the old one it will sit below the cold fill line. mine stays 1-2 inches below it and has held its level there for over a year. ford actually came out with new resevoirs with correct fill lines

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if you have the old one it will sit below the cold fill line. mine stays 1-2 inches below it and has held its level there for over a year. ford actually came out with new resevoirs with correct fill lines
Good to know...I've got a Job 1 and it puked once last spring. It has say about 2 inches below the line with no other puking issues. It's going in to the dealer tomorrow since the radiator is leaking on the driver's side...maybe they will replace the degas bottle with the newer one. I'm just glad I don't have to put it all back to stock...got a new cool service manager and dealer to go to.


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The TCM relearn process is brutal. Did it once the first time I loaded the 310 tune and installed the TCM. Haven't done it since after loading tunes. It feels like I'm beating the crap out the truck and around here there really aren't any safe/good places to complete the procedure, aside from paying $55 to go to a test and tune and do it at the track. But to do something like that you would basically waist half of you day just because you changed/reloaded tunes. It just seems like a hassel, but hey, I guess that's the price you gotta pay for making this much power!

What ever happened to Spartan releasing there NZL, (near zero learning, if I remember correctly), tunes?

Sorry, back on topic. The one and only time my trucked puked it was after I was already at operating temp and had been cruising down the freeway for about 20 minutes. I was making big boost, 57 psi worth, and let off the throttle very suddenly as soon as I realized boost was that high. The truck then began to puke for the rest of my trip, which was only about 15 minutes, but I did have another grade to climb to get home. After parking the truck over night it never puked again, but I never beat on it until I did new HG/studs.

I was not monitoring ECT's when this happened so I can't be much help there, but I did puke about a gallon of coolant before I arrived at my finial destination.

I believe the worst thing for your HG/stock head bolts is making high boost numbers and them getting off the throttle very quickly. W/O having a wasetgate or blow off valve the boost pressure has to go somewhere and that is into the cylinder when RPM's are decreasing, making for a large spike in cylinder pressure.

With that said, my truck will have a BOV on it before I load the 310 again.

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How do you know if you have the updated coolant reservoir with new fill lines. I've got an 08 Job 3 and the coolant level seems to stay about 1.5" below the cold fill line. I've never added any coolant and the truck has never puked any that I know of. Is this something to be concerned about?
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If you have the old bottle it will have 2 return ports for coolant. One of the return ports should be plugged off. I believe the new bottle only has one return port.

Someone please correct me if this is not correct.

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