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Old 09-30-2009, 06:39 AM
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Those of you with Lifted Truck Vibrations & Noises!

I just wanted to give you guys a little check list to look out for if your having drive vibrations, noises, squeeks, or any other suspension issues!
  • Make sure that everything is tight on your kits! Check your torques on everything even factory re-installed parts!
  • Zerk fittings are put there for a purpose, use them! Just don't get crazy and blow your seals out!
  • WD-40 or Spray Lithium Grease works wonders on leaf springs! (If you have a squeek this will solve it!)
  • Always do a check on all your bushings and bolts, stuff is not made to last forever now a days.
  • GET A ONE PIECE DRIVE SHAFT WITH HIGH ANGLE CV'S (If your having drive line vibrations this will solve 90% of your problems!) I don't care who told you that a 2 piece drive shaft is the best they are morons!
  • Remember you pay for what you get! $50 shocks are not going to going to ride like $300 dollar shocks or coils!

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Old 09-30-2009, 07:33 AM
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GOOD POST!
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:54 AM
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Dont buy a Rize kit if you actually use your truck !
If you have a pavement queen Rize should work for you.

I know this for a fact my 08 F350 4X4 Harley 8" rize - first heim jnts - 100 mile - done !
Changed them out 1500 miles on the truck rattled & clattered on the Alberta rough oilfield roads, totally embarrassed to let anyone ride in my truck, put it in 4 wheel drive - shook like a 90 yr old man - Rize could have not cared less.Use all the WD40 you want still rattled.

Had the shop order in a pure performance front 4 link from top gun - installed that & had my new truck back again - drives perfect - the only rattles now is from my Rize traction bars - SAD.

Was at another Alberta diesel shop the other day & noticed the owner had an 09 F350 with an 8' Rize on it - already knowing the answer I asked how is the lift? his Pi$$ed off answer - it sucks - sounds like a wreck - he took me for ride mostly to show me the power of the Sparton 310 tune, rattled & squeeked almost as bad as mine, only his 4 wheel drive was fairly smooth.

Long post - But Rize did not help in the least only offering to try more heim jnts on my dime, Im one of many with this problem here - WD aint the answer.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:14 AM
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Dont buy a Rize kit if you actually use your truck !
If you have a pavement queen Rize should work for you.

I know this for a fact my 08 F350 4X4 Harley 8" rize - first heim jnts - 100 mile - done !
Changed them out 1500 miles on the truck rattled & clattered on the Alberta rough oilfield roads, totally embarrassed to let anyone ride in my truck, put it in 4 wheel drive - shook like a 90 yr old man - Rize could have not cared less.Use all the WD40 you want still rattled.

Had the shop order in a pure performance front 4 link from top gun - installed that & had my new truck back again - drives perfect - the only rattles now is from my Rize traction bars - SAD.

Was at another Alberta diesel shop the other day & noticed the owner had an 09 F350 with an 8' Rize on it - already knowing the answer I asked how is the lift? his Pi$$ed off answer - it sucks - sounds like a wreck - he took me for ride mostly to show me the power of the Sparton 310 tune, rattled & squeeked almost as bad as mine, only his 4 wheel drive was fairly smooth.

Long post - But Rize did not help in the least only offering to try more heim jnts on my dime, Im one of many with this problem here - WD aint the answer.
WOW! I'm really glad you made this post. For years I was considering going with a Rize lift on my previous truck, which was a 05 6.0L. I actually was getting ready to lift that truck before I bought my 08. I guess I dodged a bullet there!

I have a few friends who are considering lifting there trucks with Rize kits. I'll be sure to pass along this info.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:15 AM
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I would have to disagree, I have a lot of rize parts on my truck and they are fine, they are modified but the overall design is fine. In regards to the heim joints you are 100% correct. I had them go out after 1 month and i went with rebuildable and greasable heim joints. In regards to the kit I think its very well built. There are a few parts that need to be improved on but over all its pretty good. For instance the rear tac bars have a few points that can be improved greaseable bushings for one which I installed, servicable heim joints, gusset rear axle brackets top and bottom.

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Dont buy a Rize kit if you actually use your truck !
If you have a pavement queen Rize should work for you.

I know this for a fact my 08 F350 4X4 Harley 8" rize - first heim jnts - 100 mile - done !
Changed them out 1500 miles on the truck rattled & clattered on the Alberta rough oilfield roads, totally embarrassed to let anyone ride in my truck, put it in 4 wheel drive - shook like a 90 yr old man - Rize could have not cared less.Use all the WD40 you want still rattled.

Had the shop order in a pure performance front 4 link from top gun - installed that & had my new truck back again - drives perfect - the only rattles now is from my Rize traction bars - SAD.

Was at another Alberta diesel shop the other day & noticed the owner had an 09 F350 with an 8' Rize on it - already knowing the answer I asked how is the lift? his Pi$$ed off answer - it sucks - sounds like a wreck - he took me for ride mostly to show me the power of the Sparton 310 tune, rattled & squeeked almost as bad as mine, only his 4 wheel drive was fairly smooth.

Long post - But Rize did not help in the least only offering to try more heim jnts on my dime, Im one of many with this problem here - WD aint the answer.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:47 AM
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I just wanted to give you guys a little check list to look out for if your having drive vibrations, noises, squeeks, or any other suspension issues!
  • Make sure that everything is tight on your kits! Check your torques on everything even factory re-installed parts!
  • Zerk fittings are put there for a purpose, use them! Just don't get crazy and blow your seals out!
  • WD-40 or Spray Lithium Grease works wonders on leaf springs! (If you have a squeek this will solve it!)
  • Always do a check on all your bushings and bolts, stuff is not made to last forever now a days.
  • GET A ONE PIECE DRIVE SHAFT WITH HIGH ANGLE CV'S (If your having drive line vibrations this will solve 90% of your problems!) I don't care who told you that a 2 piece drive shaft is the best they are morons!
  • Remember you pay for what you get! $50 shocks are not going to going to ride like $300 dollar shocks or coils!

Nice post, though, I don't think people using 2 piece drive shafts are "morons". Are they the BEST? Obviously not, but they do have their place. They are MUCH harder to work with, to get all of the vibrations out.

Do you have the specs on the length, tube diameter, and wall thickness for your one piece?
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:47 AM
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I did not know when I ordered my kit, or I would have waited but now it seems the arms are different now. Rize does not use hiem joints and went with bushings in place of the hiems. Look on there website under photos to see pics.
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:54 AM
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High Angle Drivline-Call Jesse at 530-877-2875, Drive Shafts!

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Old 09-30-2009, 12:24 PM
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My shop told about the bushing change from the heim jnts for the Rize kits.
I said so when do I get the upgraded front four link arms - his answer was you would have to pay for it - (not likely) I paid top dollar once, then paid again to upgrade to the Pure Performance 4 links with the bushings.

If the Rize 4 link assembly with the heim jnts is so great Dinoone - why are they going to a bushing instead of the Heim jnts ?? Rize knows that they have a problem with alot of Alberta trucks - do we drive different, harsher enviroment ?? The heim jnts get pounded out by wash board roads we drive on then the rattling starts.
For Street pavement queen trucks I would think the Rize would be great - sure looks great.

By the way Palady6.4 - nice truck.

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Old 09-30-2009, 12:42 PM
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If you bothered to read my post I said you were 100% right, thats why I went with creeper joints.....


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My shop told about the bushing change from the heim jnts for the Rize kits.
I said so when do I get the upgraded front four link arms - his answer was you would have to pay for it - (not likely) I paid top dollar once, then paid again to upgrade to the Pure Performance 4 links with the bushings.

If the Rize 4 link assembly with the heim jnts is so great Dinoone - why are they going to a bushing instead of the Heim jnts ?? Rize knows that they have a problem with alot of Alberta trucks - do we drive different, harsher enviroment ?? The heim jnts get pounded out by wash board roads we drive on then the rattling starts.
For Street pavement queen trucks I would think the Rize would be great - sure looks great.

By the way Palady6.4 - nice truck.
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