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post #1 of 25 Old 09-19-2009, 10:09 AM Thread Starter
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New Spartan 210 tune can't get over 29psi of boost!

I just switched to Spartan from Bully Dog. Installed a 5" downpipe back Flo-Pro exhaust and the Spartan 210 tune. I just got it wide open and I couldn't get it to boost over 29 psi. This seems low to me.

I know I had my Bully Dog with DPF on and boosted over 36 psi like 2 days ago. Shouldn't this Spartan be getting me up around 40 psi at least???

Please let me know if this is expected...if not...what could be the cause of such low numbers?

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Well...I may have figured this out on my own. I loaded the 175 tune and just got back from a quick drive and noticed a huge difference. It smoked alot more...and boosted quickly to 39 psi.
Much more like what I was expecting to get from Spartan!

I also found on the forum search tool that the 210 engages the EGR. So is this why it won't boost as much? Or smoke as much? Why does the 210 do this? I love they way it shifted and seemed to get great fuel economy. The 210 is probably going to be my everyday driving tune, but just wish I could get it to boost more.

Anyone have any input?

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Hmm that's interesting but I have no clue what to tell you. If it engages the EGR then that COULD drop your boost and smoke but I don't think that much. I'd just keep bumping your thread until one of the experts jumps in on this.

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I know I have read somewhere that guys were getting over 40 psi on the 210. Does the 250 or 275 tune engage the EGR?

Once again, what is the benefit of engaging the EGR? Is it dangerous to block it off with the plates I have seen for sale?

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There might be something wrong with your 210 tune. You might log it and sent it to spartan to see what's going on. The 275 tune eliminates the EGR unless at idle. idk about the 250. The 310 eliminates it completely. There is no benefit horsepower wise from the EGR. And no there's no worries in the block-off plates. I have them but I run the 275 tune which eliminates it anyway. Its more of a preventive because EGRs are common of blowing up and sending shards into the block and other important stuff

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How difficult is it to install the block-off plates? Easily accessible?

Actually...I wouldn't be able to use them with a tune that doesn't eliminate it, right? Do they have to come back out when going back to stock?

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They arent bad to install. The hardest part is just getting the holes lined up and having the right tools. And I'm not sure about running them with the 210 tune. Idk if that would be bad or not. I can find out or maybe someone will chime in. I'm surprised they havent already

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The lower tunes boost harder because the egr is turned on . but the 210 the torque converter locks at 50 under light pedal and if u ease into it u will see 39 psi, basically under load is where the 210 comes to life . its not a full race tune like the 250 275 310 but shares some characteristics like the torque converter locking and the egr being off . now you will notice the egr cycles at idle on any tune 210 and above . its a nice tune the power is there believe me . its a good tune i run it and have had no problems and so do alot of other members. its not good to run all that soot through the motor all the time but thats your decision 210 all the way here
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I hope this clears some things up lemme know im sure other members will chime in if need be
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Thanks Mxr695. I will reload the 210 this weekend and get it up to 50mph and see what it can do. Most of my driving is around town so I like the response from the 175. Does the 250 tune (that will soon become available for free for us guys running 210 and under) boost quickly like the 175?

I guess I had it backwards then...the egr ON is what makes it boost so quick.

So when you say "soot running through the motor" you mean when the egr is on? Is that another reason to delete it?

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